Latest on UK WWW links copyright infringement case

[Ron Ipsen]

At 16:55 25/11/96 +1100, you wrote:
>At 15:53 96/11/25, Ken CAMERON wrote:
>>If you publish a newspaper or book you have no legal right to prevent me
>>     from mentioning it or quoting from it (within the constraints of
>>     copyright law) and no moral right to expect me to ask your permission
>>     before doing so (within the sub-legal constraints of the ethics of
>>     plagiarism).   You do have some rights if I steal your material or
>>     pretend to have written it myself.  Those distinctions have been worked
>>     out over centuries and they need to be implemented on the net, not
>>     abandoned.
>
>Here, here!
>


 Is it hot in here or is it just me?

 I am not abandoning them, just saying that they are centuries old and dont
seem to apply completely to hypertext.

   I have been forced to utilise the tools you are lauding as the key to
defence of my rights and find them inefective in the extreme.

   Catching smoke in a fishing net.

   I cannot envisage a workable law that can defend an information provider
effectively against a systematic leeching. Current laws cannot even defeat
blatant plagiarism.

    It has to be a cultural change, Jan's paradigm. I believe it should
start right here, with the online brains trust of the community, the
communications gatekeepers.

 por de hom

   Surely we can see that the net cannot continue to be built and maintained
by government money grants and sponsored projects, be they direct:- dss,dpie
etc - or indirect through uni's etc.

   The net, the web ,and the ensuing generations of communications
methodologies must evolve. This will require some nurturing, but it will
also mean that in the long run it must become self sustaining. To reach this
point it must have a basic set of rules that will encourage its true long
term growth and protect its ability to encourage creativity.

    We are I believe a  unique group of visionary people, trailblazers in
time. As much pioneers as any who travelled in tall ships or broke virgin
ground.
because of this and even despite it we have a responsibility in how we guide
the future. I believe we will see what the problems are facing our charge
and make the nessescary adjustments to our course and our thinking to bring
about the proper outcome.
    

    Maslow said "give me the boy until he is 4 and I will give you the man.".
So it is true of what we are guiding and shaping here.

   The Military concieved it, Universities gave birth to it, the Government
has suckled it and now it is going to be fostered out amongst the private
sector to see if it will survive.

   The .com domains are not the leeches on the infant, they are its future.

   To ensure a healthy relationship develops between them from which we all
can benefit, be it in employment created, artistic development or just good
sence of community  and ethical responsibility is, as I see it, the task we
are now facing.
   


Ron.

   A curious view of the web? - certainly. Off topic? - probably.
Gratuitous? - I hope not.