[LINK] Tax Office selling ABN details
Sat, 3 Jun 00 13:41:25 +1000
>Wrong. It does relate to individuals if you are a sole trader, as I am.
fair enough... but how is this different from looking up your trading
from a whois search on your domain I have found:
descr: (Business Name) LANNet Computing Associates
descr: (RBN) T6624927 (NSW)
I have also found your address and some other details I wont waste
bandwidth by publishing...
from you RBN, I have derived (by seraching ASIC) nothing in particular...
I am sure the info attached to your ABN will be of a similar depth...
However I am also invited to spend some money with an information broker,
Australian Business Research
Credit Advantage Limited
Dun & Bradstreet
Global Xtranet Services Pty Ltd
Hazlett Information Services
Satcom Pty Ltd
Telephone Service: Stockphone
so I go to Citec Confirm, pay $16, and viola! I have a wealth of
information faxed to me...
more for curiosity value, I searched on my own business rather than
lannet, and everything I have told any gov't shows up, and yes, I am a
sole trader as well....
so how will a search by ABN be any different to the search i just
>Wrong. In NSW, at least, the Council is not permitted to divulge the name
>of owners of property, except in the circumstance of a threat to life.
Wrong. It varies from council to council. Some will not tell you
anything, others will tell you everything, and some will only tell you a
subset. I apologise for not clarifying this.
on the other hand, Citec just told who owned my house..... (for a fee of
course!) - $3.90
>It's the whole principle of the thing. You may not recall the debacle of
>the Australia Card in the 80's, but this quote indicates the mentality of
>a feral govt minister at that time:
>"We needn't, as socialists, get too concerned about privacy; it's a
>bourgeois right, closely allied to the right to private property".
>- Former Federal Health Minister Neal Blewett, addressing the Fabian
>Society in 1988 in relation to the Australia Card issue.
well, at $16/record, I am not too worried about marketers picking up
details currently available concerning my business, and I am similarly
not worried about them digging my details up via my ABN, as it will
(should) be similarly expensive.
anyone who really wants to know will find out no matter what, so why not
just make it easy but expensive? - I don't know too many marketers who
are willing to shell out that much money to find out my address.. It's
cheaper to just use the white/yellow pages (as they do - often)
can anyone answer my original question?
>> If anyone would like to tell me why i should be afraid of or concerned
>> about the gov't selling my details, I would be most appreciative.
in other words, what's going to change? and why should I care?
As someone who runs a business I am against privacy to the point where I
cannot search against a credit record and make an informed decision on a
potential customers' credit history.
finally, yes I have read 1984. I do believe that many things concerning
individuals should be kept private, but there are things which aren't
kept private or entirely private for good reasons: credit checking, land
titles, who is running which business, for how long and where. Without
this information it would be harder to do many things, including buying
houses, buying shares, taking on a customer with the knowledge that they
are more likely than not to pay their bills, and on time.
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