[LINK] Fwd: [WEB4LIB] Re: Chemistry website content change
Tony Barry
me@Tony-Barry.emu.id.au
Thu, 16 Aug 2001 16:13:37 +1000
Linkers
These postings to the web4lib list (a librarians list) was a follow
up to a number of postings warning that a variety of sites, once
containing useful information, had become porn sites.
Tony
>Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 07:41:09 -0700 (PDT)
>Reply-To: WMinkel@cahners.com
>Originator: web4lib@sunsite.berkeley.edu
>Sender: web4lib@sunsite.berkeley.edu
>From: "Minkel, Walter (Cahners -NYC)" <WMinkel@cahners.com>
>To: Multiple recipients of list <web4lib@sunsite.berkeley.edu>
>Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Chemistry website content change
>X-Comment: Web4Lib Information - http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Web4Lib/
>
>Folks-- Hi from School Library Journal. There seems to be a flood of domains
>that have lapsed & then bought by brokers & sold to porn sites (at least
>that's how I've heard it reported). Just recently both a site for children's
>authors & illustrators, and another for homeschooling families, became porn
>sites, to the great embarrassment of many folks in children's literature &
>education. My understanding is that unscrupulous domain brokers (are there
>_scrupulous_ domain brokers?) look for sites to which many other sites link,
>& snap them up as soon as ownership of those domains lapses. You can
>understand what a sensitive issue this is in many public & school libraries
>serving kids.
>
>I'd like to write something about this, but I'm not certain of the best way
>to approach the subject. Is anyone aware of why this is happening so
>frequently these days? I have guesses, but no documentation. Are there any
>authorities or organizations I could contact who could talk about it with
>some expertise? All suggestions as to tracking this story down are welcome.
>Thanks, W
>
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>Walter Minkel * Technology Editor, School Library Journal * www.slj.com
>wminkel@cahners.com * (212) 463-6721 * fax (212) 463-6689
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Peter Scott [SMTP:scottp@moondog.usask.ca]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 10:00 AM
>> To: Multiple recipients of list
>> Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Chemistry website content change
>>
>> I received a bunch of messages about this one as well yesterday:
> >
> > http://www.science-kids.com
> >
> > Now a pornography site.
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>Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 07:50:33 -0700 (PDT)
>Reply-To: dan@riverofdata.com
>Originator: web4lib@sunsite.berkeley.edu
>Sender: web4lib@sunsite.berkeley.edu
>From: Dan Lester <dan@riverofdata.com>
>To: Multiple recipients of list <web4lib@sunsite.berkeley.edu>
>Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Chemistry website content change
>X-Comment: Web4Lib Information - http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Web4Lib/
>
>This is a growing trend. Companies in the porn business buy up domain
>names that have recently expired and then link them to porn sites that
>they own. They get the benefit of visitors they'd probably never
>otherwise get, and if only a few of them sign up for memberships,
>they're ahead. Also, they're generally willing to sell the name back
>to the original owner.
>
>As a local example, the site http://www.caldwellid.org/, which was
>owned by the Caldwell, Idaho, Chamber of Commerce, wasn't renewed.
>When I discovered it and notified them, they were shocked. It turned
>out that they'd moved their office and the bill wasn't forwarded, as
>it had been more than six months since they'd moved. The email
>addresses that were on the domain registration were for people who
>were no longer employed there and no changes had been made with the
>registrar. Basically, a combination of errors and ignorance. That
>kind of thing isn't at all surprising in a membership organization.
>Rather than try to buy the name back for several thousand dollars,
>they simply registered http://www.caldwellidaho.org/ and are now
>running it. The old URL links to the same site as a couple of others
>that have been mentioned here, so I'm not sure how many companies are
>doing this as an attempt to make money. Will this experimental
>business model succeed in the long run? I personally doubt it, but
>only time will tell.
>
>That's why idaholibraries.org is registered in my name personally. It
>is paid for by the Idaho Library Association, but I know that I'll
>keep it paid, renewed, and so forth. When I retire, I'll transfer it
>to ILA and by then there should be someone who knows the details of
>keeping it all up to date and paid for. It should probably always
>have "personal care", as association officers and mailing addresses
>change much too often in most cases.
>
>I also can understand how people start up a project and it eventually
>falls by the wayside for various reasons. When I started
>www.postcard.org it was almost the only postcard collecting related
>site on the web. Now there are hundreds of them, the vast majority
>much more comprehensive and up to date than mine. I'd like to find
>someone to take the domain off my hands (for very little money...I'm
>not a speculator). But so far that hasn't happened and I've just let
>it sit out there and languish. And so it goes.....
>
>dan
>
>
>Wednesday, August 15, 2001, 7:33:13 AM, you wrote:
>
>
>EOM> FYI:
>
>EOM> Our reference librarian recently brought to my attention that
>EOM> the content of www.webmolecules.com has....um...changed
>EOM> to a discussion of a different type of chemistry altogether.
>
>
>
>--
>Dan Lester, Data Wrangler dan@RiverOfData.com
>3577 East Pecan, Boise, Idaho 83716-7115 USA
>www.riverofdata.com www.gailndan.com Stop Global Whining!
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And a different slant -
>Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:24:07 -0700 (PDT)
>Reply-To: tdowling@ohiolink.edu
>Originator: web4lib@sunsite.berkeley.edu
>Sender: web4lib@sunsite.berkeley.edu
>From: "Thomas Dowling" <tdowling@ohiolink.edu>
>To: Multiple recipients of list <web4lib@sunsite.berkeley.edu>
>Subject: [WEB4LIB] Re: Chemistry website content change
>X-Comment: Web4Lib Information - http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Web4Lib/
>
> > This is a growing trend. Companies in the porn business buy up domain
> > names that have recently expired and then link them to porn sites that
> > they own. They get the benefit of visitors they'd probably never
> > otherwise get, and if only a few of them sign up for memberships,
> > they're ahead. Also, they're generally willing to sell the name back
> > to the original owner.
>
>I'm not convinced that the bulk of this activity is from porn companies.
>It appears to me that domain name squatters simply slap porn links all
>over their newly acquired properties as a way to get the most immediate
>reaction from the previous owners.
>
>FWIW:
>
>whois webmolecules.com
>
>Registrant:
> <a href="http://domains.nicgod.com">ForSale</a>
> 19, Bondarenko square
> Obninsk, Kaluga 249020
> RU
>
> Registrar: Dotster (http://www.dotster.com)
> Domain Name: WEBMOLECULES.COM
> Created on: 30-JUL-01
> Expires on: 30-JUL-02
> Last Updated on: 14-AUG-01
>
> Administrative Contact:
> Ginsberg, Allen allen@elazy.net
> <a href="http://domains.nicgod.com">ForSale</a>
> 19, Bondarenko square
> Obninsk, Kaluga 249020
> RU
> 626.772.1440x7719
> 2089759867
>
> Technical Contact:
> Hostmaster, The admin@eeex.net
> eeeX
> 1052 W. Alameda Ave., # 211
> Burbank, CA 91506
> US
> 213.401.2100x5769
> 213.401.2100x5769
>
>
>whois nicgod.com
>
>NicGOD Domain Services
> 19, Bondarenko square
> Obninsk, Kaluga 249020
> RU
>
> Domain Name: NICGOD.COM
>
> Administrative Contact:
> Charles Bukowski admin@elazy.net
> Buy This Name
> 19, Bondarenko square
> Obninsk, Kaluga reg 249020
> RU
> Phone- (626) 722-1440 ext7719
> Fax- (626) 722-1440 ext7719
> Technical Contact:
> The Administrator el394@elazy.net
> eee X Hosting
> 1052 West Alameda Avenue # 211
> Burbank, CA 91506
> US
> Phone- 213.401.2100x5769
> Fax- 213.401.2100x5769
>
> Record updated on 2001-03-18 22:20:49.
> Record created on 2001-03-18.
> Record expires on 2002-03-18.
> Database last updated on 2001-08-15 06:00:39 EST.
>
>
>If you're near Burbank (or Obninsk, for that matter) I'm sure they'd love
>to hear from you.
>
>Thomas Dowling
>OhioLINK - Ohio Library and Information Network
>>tdowling@ohiolink.edu
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