[LINK] FW: Netscape should stop whining about Microsoft domin ance --S. Richman

[Michael Still]

On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Chirgwin, Richard wrote:

Yeah, Monash Uni has a Monash.Net project which ported <<insert name of
language I have forgotten>> to .Net. MS AU now pushes them around the
country side selling their consulting services for porting existing
applications to .Net.

I know that work has been approached to ask if we should use Monash.Net's
services.

Mikal

> Rick - the marketecture from M$ is that .Net at the server side can be
> deployed to XML at the client side. If they're telling the truth, that
> doesn't necessarily exclude non-M$ browsers, does it?
>
> I'd add that there are already non-M$ languages ported to the VS.Net
> development environment ... even (heaven forbid!) Cobol ...
>
> All of this debate does, however, add interest to the Microsoft Eclipse
> initiative...www.eclipse.org
>
> Richard C
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rick Welykochy [mailto:rick@praxis.com.au]
> > Sent: Thursday, 21 March 2002 10:45
> > To: grove@zeta.org.au
> > Cc: Malcolm Miles; link@www.anu.edu.au
> > Subject: Re: [LINK] FW: Netscape should stop whining about Microsoft
> > dominance --S. Richman
> >
> >
> > grove@zeta.org.au wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 20:52:50 +1100 (EST), you wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >If .Net becomes the smash hit MS hopes it will be, there
> > will be a great
> > > > >divide in Internet access.
> > > >
> > > > Why do you say that? I have coded a few Web sites using .Net
> > > > technology (ASP.NET, ADO.NET) and they can be accessed
> > via Netscape or
> > > > Opera without any problems.
> > >
> > > That is now.  Wait 12-18 months.  You will not be able to
> > access sites developed
> > > with .Net without using Microsoft browsers or software
> > technology heavily
> > > licensed from Microsoft.  They just haven't ramped up the
> > technology yet.
> > > Recall ActiveX doesn't work on anything other than Windows
> > based OS platforms.
> > > .Net will be the same thing, only worse.  Regardless of
> > what people like
> > > Miguel Icaza say/do, market share is everything to
> > Microsoft and there
> > > is a chance here for them to do the same thing as they always do.
> >
> > Exacto. The .NET initiative is cloaked in hazy marketing
> > terms and excessively
> > vague PR. Most do not understand the underlying technology
> > ... which is distributed
> > objects. The client (read browser) will be executing C# (and
> > other) language
> > modules sent over the net. If you do not have a client (most
> > likely running
> > on Windows and written by MS), you will not be able to use .NET.
> >
> > BTW: Think Java: .NET and C# are MS's answer to Java.
> >
> > -rickw
> >
> >
> > --
> > _____________________________________________
> > Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services Pty Limited
> >
> > Immediately before the big bang occurred, a loud voice was
> > heard saying 'Oh, shit!'
> >
>

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Michael Still (mikal@stillhq.com)     UMT+11hrs