[OT Canute] Re: [LINK] [Fwd: Interesting KPMG report on DRM]

Chirgwin, Richard Richard.Chirgwin@informa.com.au
Wed, 9 Oct 2002 15:22:51 +1000


Corrections acknowledged and accepted!
RC

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> From: Kevin McKern [mailto:kevin@ilanet.net.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, 9 October 2002 13:46
> To: Chirgwin, Richard; link@www.anu.edu.au
> Subject: RE: [OT Canute] Re: [LINK] [Fwd: Interesting KPMG report on
> DRM]
> 
> 
> Re Canute.
> 
> Actually, as the "History of Britain" doco made clear, Canute 
> actually did
> not expect
> to hold back the tide. He apparently was demonstrating the 
> limitations of
> Kingly power
> to his courtiers.
> 
> I found an oblique reference via Google in a few seconds.
> 
> He also tells the edifying story of Canute commanding the 
> tide not to rise
> to illustrate
> the king's awareness that his power was vain and frivolous.
> 
> http://itsa.ucsf.edu/~snlrc/encyclopaedia_romana/britannia/sax
> onadvent/monmo
> uth.html
> 
> Regards,
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-link@www.anu.edu.au [mailto:owner-link@www.anu.edu.au]On
> Behalf Of Chirgwin, Richard
> Sent: Wednesday, 9 October 2002 8:10 AM
> To: link@www.anu.edu.au
> Subject: RE: [OT Canute] Re: [LINK] [Fwd: Interesting KPMG report on
> DRM]
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> 
> The Knut/Canute and Waves incident is probably misreported 
> anyhow ... it's
> likely that a pagan kingship ceremony involved symbolically 
> getting the okay
> from a water god(ess); and that later Catholic propagandists 
> rewrote the
> tale either (a) from misreading a picture ["Look at this pagain idiot,
> trying to turn back the tide!"] or (b) as deliberate 
> denigration of Norse
> religious belief...
> 
> RC
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ken Brown [mailto:k.brown@ccs.bbk.ac.uk]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 9 October 2002 02:54
> > To: Trei, Peter
> > Cc: link@www.anu.edu.au; 'Robin Whittle'; Damien Miller;
> > cryptography@wasabisystems.com; cypherpunks@lne.com
> > Subject: Re: [OT Canute] Re: [LINK] [Fwd: Interesting KPMG report on
> > DRM]
> >
> >
> > In the interests of even more pedantry and accuracy can I
> > point out that
> > Canute (usually spelled "Knut" these days in solidarity 
> with our Dansk
> > brethren :-)  was mostly a king in *Southern* England, living
> > at Bosham
> > near Chichester? Though at one point he ruled over all
> > England, Denmark,
> > and some of the bits in between as well.
> >
> > "Trei, Peter" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Robin Whittle[SMTP:rw@firstpr.com.au] wrote:
> > > > .
> > > [lots of good stuff about the music business clipped]
> > >
> > > > I think this is an accurate analysis of a really sad
> > situation.  Like
> > > > King Canute, the record companies are devoting most of
> > their thinking
> > > > and resources to holding back the tide.
> > > >
> > > [even more good stuff clipped]
> > >
> > > In the interests of pedantry and accuracy, may I point out
> > that Canute
> > > did not actually expect to hold back the tide. Canute was
> > an an early
> > > Danish king of northern England, living ~995-1035. Like 
> most modern
> > > leaders, he was surrounded by yes-men. Unlike them, he 
> did something
> > > about it:
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