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[Adam Todd]

>>Deus Ex Machina wrote:
>>
>>>firstly those that do reap rewards provide plenty of private funds
>>>for charity.
>
>'Plenty'? Even in America, more than 1 in 10 people live in poverty
>[http://www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/p60-222.pdf - or try the 2000
>Green Book http://aspe.os.dhhs.gov/2000gb/].

I think you'll find the figure isn't that different in Australia.  We have 
five in this household and two others we know that have an income of less 
than 50% of the poverty line.

It's more reaching than most people realise.  Just sit in some chat 
channels during the day and observe the same people there, day in and day 
out, never actually working and hear what they have to say about what they 
eat, do with their lives and how they live.  Most have kids.  Campbelltown 
is the worst area, with Blacktown and west of being equally as punishing.

Kelleyville "the new suburb" is turning into a $450,000 mortgage nightmare 
as more than 250,000 people who thought they could pay their huge 
mortgages, and the two car loans needed to live in the area, find they are 
loosing their jobs, assets and cars.

It's far worse than our Wonderful Government is prepared to admit and I'll 
bet you don't see the Labor Party stepping in and admitting things are 
worse than they look.

>>>secondly the current system of welfarism does not ameliorate the
>>>issues it seeks to do fix, as we have seen from the stats in denmark vs 
>>>the USA.
>
>Why not Iceland vs Chile? Or China vs South Korea? The comparison above
>is simplistic.

Why not just look at Australia on a whole.  Who cares about anywhere 
else.  Lets worry about our own backyard, something Austalians are very bad 
at doing.  Aussies are alwasy bagging someone else or pointing the finger 
at the next person and never accepting responsibility for themselves.

We'd rather send $2 billion in aid over seas to make us look like a wealthy 
country than spend that $2 billion on support services, job creation, 
product manufacturing (which now sits at less than 35% of the entire 
product sales in the country as we import just about everything now.)

And how many people lie on their ABS forms every four years - my god, 
people aren't game to put on the form they have no income.