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[Adam Neat]

> >
> > But is this a bad thing? Do we really need 'another' Java?
> 
> What we want is an implementation of Java which is free of Sun. No
> language which is controlled solely by a vendor should be trusted.
> 

There are subtleties here. Yes, Sun owns the rights to the language (after
all, they did invent it), but they don't own or control its direction and
its standards. The JCP owns this (which is why you need to sign away a wrath
of NDA and IP disclosure to join. 

> As Sun owns the Java trademark, this other language will be called
> something else, which is fine for ensuring minimal confusion.
> 
> 
> > Things like Mono
> > were developed by the .NET community because they wanted to run the .NET
> > architecture on non-Windows platforms (amongst other reasons). Java runs
> on


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> 
> Just a reminder, think back a few months, when Sun almost pulled Java
> support from FreeBSD. If some last minute deals weren't done, you would
> not have been able to run any Java programs on FreeBSD.
> 

I believe it was the JCP that stopped that. 

> This is the tremendous risk of proprietary coding platforms like Java.
> 
> If there was a FOSS equivalent of Java, users and developers do not need
> to worry.
> 
> >
> > Its also free to download, install and use.
> >
> > There's no value to anyone to allow other implementations of J2SE, J2EE
> and
> > J2ME technologies.
> 
> With 26 years' experience coding on platform after platform which has been
> deep-sixed by a vendor, I am very happy to disagree ;-)
> 

Ok you got me on the 26 years one :) - but having developed custom solutions
for telcos, banks, and utilities worldwide, stock exchanges and a plethora
of other big name companies, no one's ever had a problem with Sun being the
overseer of Java.

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