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On 2/12/2012 8:07 p.m., Roger Clarke wrote:
> At 10:02 +0000 2/12/12, stephen at melbpc.org.au wrote:
>>   ... our existing Archive isn't infallible
>> and one remembers the great crash of 1994, whereby all archives were
>> lost, causing much anguish. ...
> I have 347 messages in my archive from the link list, dated 7 Dec
> 1993 until just before the first that appears in the archives at
> http://mailman.anu.edu.au/pipermail/link/1995-February/date.html.
>
> They're in a Eudora (v.6.2.4) mailbox - which is maybe *not* mbox format.
>
> ___________________
>
> The oldest is *not* the announcement of the launch of the list (which
> surprises me), but instead is this one:
>
> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 16:41:11 +1100
> From: Geoff Huston <G.Huston at aarnet.edu.au>
> To: link at wombat.anu.edu.au, e.wainwright at nla.gov.au
> Subject: Re: National Networked Applications Strategy
> Cc: tony at info.anu.edu.au
>
> Eric,
>
> Thanks for your note
>
>> 1.     Public access to electronic information/community networking
>>         - At national level
>>                 - Get selected journalists informed and fed with Internet
>>                   materials/stories
> evidently the Internet is a cover story in this week's Time magazine!
>
> geoff
>
> ___________________
>
> And the tradition of MS-bashing goes back a long way:
>
> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 94 10:45:42 EST
> To: link at wombat.anu.edu.au
> From: Roger.Clarke at anu.edu.au (Roger Clarke)
> Subject: Bill Gates
>
> The SMH reported this morning that Bill Gates will today tell Paul Keating
> what a tremendously important thing an NII is.
>
> Should someone be planning a media stunt to capitalise upon the opportunity
> ...  sorry, I mean be planning a media campaign to inform the journalists
> what on earth an NII is, and thereby ensure that (a) the debate starts and
> (b) the debate avoids immediate capture by interested parties like IBM,
> Telecom, Microsoft ...
>
> Roger
>
> ________________________________
>
> And this isn't quite Prof. Klerphell, but then I'm not quite Tom W.:
>
> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 94 14:13:43 EST
> To: link at wombat.anu.edu.au
> From: Roger.Clarke at anu.edu.au (Roger Clarke)
> Subject: Re: Bill Gates
> Cc: Warwick Cathro <w.cathro at nla.gov.au>
>
> How's this for a folksy draft press release?  If it's worth doing, we have
> an offer to do the distribution.  But if it's wrong, misleading,
> unrepresentative of people's opinions, uninteresting or unlikely to either
> (a) attract coverage or (b) stimulate journo's to think about the matter,
> then forget the whole idea!
>
>                                MEDIA RELEASE
>
>             MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT THE AUSTRALIAN INFORMATION HIGHWAY
>                            (MULTI-LANE OPINIONS?)
>
> Bill Gates proposed to Paul Keating today that the National Information
> Infrastructure should be recognised as a critical component of any 'clever
> country' strategy.  Bill's argument has drawn mixed reactions from active
> Internet users and watchers.
>
> "It's wonderful that someone who has access to the top decision-maker in
> the country has put public networking services at the top of the national
> agenda", said some.
>
> "Hold on a minute", said others.  "There's no such thing as free advice.
> Bill Gates, for all his 'computer nerd' image, runs a massive company and
> has his corporation's interests to protect and project".
>
> Many people agree that the government should encourage the emergence of an
> NII, and should use public statements, policy measures, subsidies and
> targetted investments to achieve it.  The concerns are about what precisely
> an NII is, and who the beneficiaries are going to be.
>
> There is a serious danger of capture of the project by major information
> technology corporations.  It is vital that the objectives be to advantage
> Australians, not just corporations and not just overseas giants;  and that
> the aims, strategies and developments be openly and publicly discussed.
>
> Try talking to these people, on the phone, or the community of Internet
> watchers, on link at wombat.anu.edu.au:
>
> Tony Barry          (06)  xxx xxxx
> Roger Clarke        (06)  249 3666,  home:  (06)  288 6916
> Tom Worthington     (06)  xxx xxxx
> <any takers??>
>
> Roger Clarke                            Tel:    +61  6  249 3666
> Reader in Information Systems
> Department of Commerce                  Fax:    +61  6  249 5005
> Australian National University
> Canberra   ACT   0200
> AUSTRALIA                               Email:  Roger.Clarke at anu.edu.au
>


So Roger, essentially what you're actually telling us is that the Labor 
party do have some smarts and didn't believe Bill Gates.... in fact it 
took 3G broadband and a Steven Jobs iPhone to finally nudge them into 
action on the NII err, NBN... whatever.

Ummm... perhaps Linkers might check what phones the respective ministers 
had when drawing on the corner of the napkin on the way to the 
conference.... <grin>.

Apple beats Microsoft yet again....

Roger thanks for the Eric W skull-dudgery heads up... until this moment, 
I thought the Internet just happened. It would appear that it was all a 
planned academic coup.... as per the proof in his email to  Geoff...

TomK