[LINK] Energy Catalyzer (E-Cat)
tomk at unwired.com.au
Fri Jan 13 18:43:41 EST 2012
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> [mailto:link-bounces at mailman.anu.edu.au] On Behalf Of jim birch
> Sent: Friday, 13 January 2012 4:43 PM
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> Subject: Re: [LINK] Energy Catalyzer (E-Cat)
> On 13 January 2012 13:16, TKoltai <tomk at unwired.com.au> wrote:
> > Comparison is for one pound of each metal. Therefore the
> heat from the
> > isotopic conversion would need to generate a minimum of
> $6.00 worth of
> > energy for every pound of metal, before the output cost
> > is neutralised.
> If you can combine a Ni-58 and Protium H-1 to get a Cu-59 you
> get a fractional reduction in mass of 0.00006.
> Using an isotope composition of 68% and E = MC**2 you get a
> theoretical energy release from 1 kilo of Nickel of 78,000 MJ
> or 22 MWhr, that is, like a day's output from a smallish
> power station for a few bucks. Not a bad deal. It would
> well and truly pay for the nickel even if you couldn't grab
> 100% of the energy produced (e.g. due to the force of the explosion)
> Unfortunately, it is very, very hard to smash a proton into a
> nickel nucleus with sufficient force to get this to happen.
> It takes a very serious amount of energy, not just a little
> heating. If it were possible, I imagine that random
> interactions with hydrogen would have long used up all the
> nickel here on earth, and anyway, none would have made it out
> of the supernovas where where it was originally created at
> temperatures measured in billions of degrees.
> - Jim
I agree, from my meagre understanding of the subject that (using
traditionally "accepted" methods) it would be very hard and most
probably extremely radioactive.
But let's think outside the square for a moment.
What were to happen if we were to use cold laser acoustic methods ?
I do believe there is advanced work being undertaken on the interaction
of deuterium atoms with amorphous hydrogenated carbon films involving
isotope exchange in (almost perfect) vacuum reactors at temperatures of
Not being a physicist, I wouldnt know, but what would happen if you put
the lot into a magnetically isolated cold plasma field ?
Surely the expected big bang would turn into a whimper.
Maybe we could convince those little atoms to vibrate together
acoustically (and merge) as they huddle together from the cold.
Are they in fact merging ? Only Schrödinger would know. (Sorry, Friday
So I'm happy to withdraw from the field of Higgs Boson versus the
economy... [we need reasons for more primary resources to be exported].
But really, I dont see the invention as that far outside the realms of
possibility [not necessarily probability]. After all, just 30 years ago,
512k was all the memory that anyone would ever need for all of their
computing requirements. Therefore if not now, then in the very near
future, the reality of non-life endangering transmutation will become a
And if you doubt that, then please explain the StarTrek Replicator. (As
I said, it's Friday).
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