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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm guessing that a spell checker and auto-correct
feature on someone's computer also could have affected the way this turned
out. Unless you have gone to the trouble to build a dictionary for
your spell checker in Tok Pisin (I did this on a pervious computer, then
failed to copy it to my new one) and don't pay attention, you will get changes
like dispela-display (although mine wants to change "dispela" to "dispel"), and
"i" to "I".</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Andy</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Mihalic] Pidgin in
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica,sans-serif">This
kind of Tok Pisin is not surprising to me. I do not know what sort of
education Joseph Kabui had. If he went through Uni he would have had a kind of
Tok Pisin completely removed from the ordinary person born and raised in a
village and going through a village school only.<BR><BR>Then the questions I
have are:<BR>Who was the interviewer and that person's skill in Tok
Pisin?<BR>Who transcribed the interview from the tape to written text and that
person's skill in Tok Pisin?<BR> e.g. who typed this: "long
December last year long check up"<BR>
whoever it was did not know Tok Pisin.<BR>Then the layout person and that
person's skill in Tok Pisin?<BR>Then who was the proof reader and that
person's skill in Tok Pisin?<BR>Then the editor of the paper and that person's
skill in Tok Pisin?<BR><BR>By reading the text as given one has no idea of
what was actually said by Joseph Kabui!<BR><BR>Vince Ohlinger<BR><BR><BR>
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Original Message ----<BR>From: John Burton <<SPAN class=yshortcuts
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Yes
“mi sapos long go” has been common for while now and is similar to “he would
of gone” in English. If you want to be pure about it, you shouldn’t hear the
common “bihain long haus” (‘later than …’), but you hear it
everywhere.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN lang=EN-US
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[mailto:lila.san.roque@anu.edu.au] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, 11 June 2008
4:23 PM<BR><B>To:</B> john.burton@anu.edu.au<BR><B>Cc:</B>
mihalic@anu.edu.au<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Mihalic] Pidgin in
journalism</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Wow this is pretty interesting.</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">It looks like there is some
adjustment of Tok Pisin words to English spelling, regardless of the meaning
of the English word (dispela - display). Also a kind of calquing of English
constructions based on sound similarity (rather than semantic/functional
equivalence) in `display taim mi sapos long go' for `the time I was supposed
to go'. I haven't heard this construction before but then again haven't been
speaking Tok Pisin for a while, do others find it familiar?<BR><BR>-----
Original Message -----<BR>From: John Burton
<john.burton@anu.edu.au><BR>Date: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 4:03
pm<BR>Subject: [Mihalic] Pidgin in journalism<BR>To: mihalic@anu.edu.au</P>
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</SPAN>From the Post-Courier today. Comments?</P>
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</SPAN><B>Simple Kabui</B></P>
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</SPAN>JOSEPH Kabui stopped taking his life-saving medicine four months ago
because he didn’t have the money to pay for it and felt ashamed to ask for
help.<BR><SPAN
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</SPAN>“Yu save sister blong mi, mi no man blong askim long samting sapos em I
concernim mi,’’ he told me in his last media interview <SPAN class=yshortcuts
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afternoon</SPAN> immediately after he arrived in Buka from his Manus
trip.<BR><SPAN
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</SPAN>About 12 hours later, he collapsed from what is believed to have been a
massive heart attack and was dead before he could be rushed to the nearby Buka
Hospital.<BR><SPAN
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</SPAN>Late president Kabui, who could give me an interview at his Gateway
because he was either tired or tied up singled out to me from his Gateway room
after returning from the Manus Governor’s conference: “ringim mi tomoro
(Friday) na bai yumi stori.”<BR><SPAN
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</SPAN>Kabui, the villager, as he was described in numerous eulogies and
tributes in a State funeral in Port Moresby when asked why he did not want to
get more medicine supplies said he had a lot of faith and trust in a local
brand of water reputed to have healing powers and that he did not want to
infringe the Autonomous <SPAN class=yshortcuts id=lw_1213234791_4
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Government funds for his own use.<BR><SPAN
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</SPAN>PC: “President, why yu no laik toksave long Masono olsem Administrator
long redim sampla moni blong yu long go long Mosbi tasol long December last
year long check up?<BR><SPAN
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</SPAN>Kabui: …mi gat planti wok long wokim, display taim mi sapos long go
long check up em mi bin stap long wanpla important miting wantaim olo lida
blong yumi na tu mi bin tied up long miting blong displa education subsidy
blong ol sumatin,ol pikinini bilong yumi.”<BR><SPAN
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</SPAN>PC: Taim marasin i pinis, why yu no laik kisim moa supply?<BR><SPAN
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</SPAN>Kabui: Sista blong mi, tru tumas mi wari tumas long planti wok long
wokim na mi no tingim tumas marasin. Yu save sister blong mi, marasin em
traipla moni tumas tu, na yu save mi no man blong askim long samting sapos em
I concernim mi, so mi bin save kisim tasol ol liklik antibiotics’’<BR><SPAN
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</SPAN>PC: SO as we speak, you sure need medicine president? Can I suggest we
do a fundraising for you?<BR><SPAN
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</SPAN>Kabui: thankyou, mi orait, review blong mi long Australia em long
display mun, maybe two weeks time (bai mi mas check wantim Townsville) tasol,
mi mas lukluk long painim sampla toea long kisim mi go, bikos last check up I
costim mi planti moni stret.”<BR><SPAN
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</SPAN>This was part of the last interview held with late President Kabui
<SPAN class=yshortcuts id=lw_1213234791_5
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