[Aqualist] Aqualist Digest, Vol 140, Issue 59
Michael Fletcher
michael.fletcher at live.com.au
Thu Nov 28 14:30:16 AEDT 2019
These are cool - although not climate comparisons per se, they do couple stals and lake sediments.
De Souza, J.G., Robinson, M., Maezumi, S.Y., Capriles, J., Hoggarth, J.A., Lombardo, U., Novello, V.F., Apaéstegui, J., Whitney, B., Urrego, D. and Alves, D.T., 2019. Climate change and cultural resilience in late pre-Columbian Amazonia. Nature ecology & evolution, 3(7), pp.1007-1017.
Maezumi, S.Y., Alves, D., Robinson, M., de Souza, J.G., Levis, C., Barnett, R.L., de Oliveira, E.A., Urrego, D., Schaan, D. and Iriarte, J., 2018. The legacy of 4,500 years of polyculture agroforestry in the eastern Amazon. Nature plants, 4(8), p.540.
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4. Re: Lake cores and speleothems (Alena Kimbrough)
5. Re: Lake cores and speleothems (Anthony Dosseto)
6. Re: Lake cores and speleothems (Bird, Michael)
7. Re: Lake cores and speleothems (Alexander Francke)
8. Re: Lake cores and speleothems (Andy Baker)
9. Re: Lake cores and speleothems (Parastoo)
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Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 20:35:17 +0800
From: Alex Wall <alexfwall at gmail.com>
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Subject: [Aqualist] Lake cores and speleothems
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Hi all,
I'm hoping for some light crowd-sourcing--if you're aware of a study comparing climate proxies in lake cores to those in nearby speleothems, please point me in its direction!
Thanks and happy holidays,
Alex
*Alexander F. Wall*
PhD Student
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Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 23:22:51 +1030
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Hi Alex,
off the top of my head, I can't think of any that explicitly combine data from speleothems and lakes. I'm sure there are though. The attached papers by Broxton Bird on Laguna Pumacocha (Peru) make a convincing case for the similarity between d18O records from lakes, speleothems and ice cores in the region.
As for explicit combination of data from lakes vs something else, John Anderson's work on Kassjon comparing diatoms and tree ring widths might be of interest:
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1365-2486.1996.tb00090.x
Hope this helps a bit
Jon
On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 at 23:09, Alex Wall <alexfwall at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm hoping for some light crowd-sourcing--if you're aware of a study
> comparing climate proxies in lake cores to those in nearby
> speleothems, please point me in its direction!
>
> Thanks and happy holidays,
> Alex
>
>
> *Alexander F. Wall*
>
> PhD Student
>
> ARC Centre of Excellence for Australian Biodiversity and Heritage
>
> School of Earth, Atmospheric and Life Sciences/SMAH University of
> Wollongong NSW 2522 Australia
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Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 21:40:06 +0000
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Hi Alex,
Simon Haberle (also CABAH) and I are planning on doing just that in PNG!
My background is in speleothem paleoclimatology (I've worked in Sulawesi, Indonesia and the US southwest).
I will be going with Simon to PNG early next year to scout out ideal cave sites.
Cheers,
Ali
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Subject: [Aqualist] Lake cores and speleothems
Hi all,
I'm hoping for some light crowd-sourcing--if you're aware of a study comparing climate proxies in lake cores to those in nearby speleothems, please point me in its direction!
Thanks and happy holidays,
Alex
*Alexander F. Wall*
PhD Student
ARC Centre of Excellence for Australian Biodiversity and Heritage
School of Earth, Atmospheric and Life Sciences/SMAH University of Wollongong NSW 2522 Australia
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Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 21:56:20 +0000
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Subject: Re: [Aqualist] Lake cores and speleothems
Hi Alex,
Simon Haberle (also CABAH) and I are planning on doing just that in PNG!
My background is in speleothem paleoclimatology (I've worked in Sulawesi, Indonesia and the US southwest).
I will be going with Simon to PNG early next year to scout out ideal cave sites.
Cheers,
Ali
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Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2019 11:35 PM
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Subject: [Aqualist] Lake cores and speleothems
Hi all,
I'm hoping for some light crowd-sourcing--if you're aware of a study comparing climate proxies in lake cores to those in nearby speleothems, please point me in its direction!
Thanks and happy holidays,
Alex
*Alexander F. Wall*
PhD Student
ARC Centre of Excellence for Australian Biodiversity and Heritage
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Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 22:05:14 +0000
From: Anthony Dosseto <tonyd at uow.edu.au>
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I'd suggest looking at the literature on European environments; this would have been done there (worst case scenario using nearby Israel spel records). Alex Francke might be able to point you in the right direction.
(I got a paper under review which just does that, but can't disclose details at this stage because it's in one of those big fancy journals haha)
Good luck in your search!
Cheers,
Tony
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Subject: Re: [Aqualist] Lake cores and speleothems
Hi Alex,
Simon Haberle (also CABAH) and I are planning on doing just that in PNG!
My background is in speleothem paleoclimatology (I've worked in Sulawesi, Indonesia and the US southwest).
I will be going with Simon to PNG early next year to scout out ideal cave sites.
Cheers,
Ali
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Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2019 11:35 PM
To: Aqualist at anu.edu.au <Aqualist at anu.edu.au>
Subject: [Aqualist] Lake cores and speleothems
Hi all,
I'm hoping for some light crowd-sourcing--if you're aware of a study comparing climate proxies in lake cores to those in nearby speleothems, please point me in its direction!
Thanks and happy holidays,
Alex
*Alexander F. Wall*
PhD Student
ARC Centre of Excellence for Australian Biodiversity and Heritage
School of Earth, Atmospheric and Life Sciences/SMAH University of Wollongong NSW 2522 Australia
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Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 22:25:28 +0000
From: "Bird, Michael" <michael.bird at jcu.edu.au>
To: Alex Wall <alexfwall at gmail.com>
Cc: "Aqualist at anu.edu.au" <Aqualist at anu.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [Aqualist] Lake cores and speleothems
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Dear Alex,
Just writing up a paper that compares n-alkane H isotopes and pollen records from a lake in the NT with the Denniston speleothem records from WA - short answer is they compare very well?
rgds,
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On 27 Nov 2019, at 22:52, Jonathan Tyler <jonathan.tyler at adelaide.edu.au<mailto:jonathan.tyler at adelaide.edu.au>> wrote:
Hi Alex,
off the top of my head, I can't think of any that explicitly combine data
from speleothems and lakes. I'm sure there are though. The attached papers
by Broxton Bird on Laguna Pumacocha (Peru) make a convincing case for the
similarity between d18O records from lakes, speleothems and ice cores in
the region.
As for explicit combination of data from lakes vs something else, John
Anderson's work on Kassjon comparing diatoms and tree ring widths might be
of interest:
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1365-2486.1996.tb00090.x
Hope this helps a bit
Jon
On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 at 23:09, Alex Wall <alexfwall at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I'm hoping for some light crowd-sourcing--if you're aware of a study
comparing climate proxies in lake cores to those in nearby speleothems,
please point me in its direction!
Thanks and happy holidays,
Alex
*Alexander F. Wall*
PhD Student
ARC Centre of Excellence for Australian Biodiversity and Heritage
School of Earth, Atmospheric and Life Sciences/SMAH
University of Wollongong NSW 2522 Australia
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Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 22:41:20 +0000
From: Alexander Francke <afrancke at uow.edu.au>
To: Anthony Dosseto <tonyd at uow.edu.au>
Cc: "Aqualist at anu.edu.au" <Aqualist at anu.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [Aqualist] Lake cores and speleothems
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Hi,
yes Tony is right, there?s quite a bit in Europe. Soreq Cave in Israel is key, but also Corchia Cave (Central Italy) and Lake Sulmona. Giovanni Zanchetta and Eleonora Regattaieri are doing a lot of work on that matter, i.e. synchronising cave and lake records with tephrochronology.
There?s one study for MIS8/9 focusing on a lake sediment and speleothem record from the same catchment:
Regattieri, E., Zanchetta, G., Isola, I., Bajo, P., Perchiazzi, N., Drysdale, R. N., Boschi, C., Hellstrom, J. C., Francke, A., and Wagner, B.: A MIS 9/MIS 8 speleothem record of hydrological variability from Macedonia (F.Y.R.O.M.), Global and Planetary Change, 162, 39-52, 10.1016/j.gloplacha.2018.01.003, 2018.
Cheers
Alex
Am 28 Nov 2019 um 09:05 schrieb Anthony Dosseto <tonyd at uow.edu.au<mailto:tonyd at uow.edu.au>>:
I'd suggest looking at the literature on European environments; this would have been done there (worst case scenario using nearby Israel spel records). Alex Francke might be able to point you in the right direction.
(I got a paper under review which just does that, but can't disclose details at this stage because it's in one of those big fancy journals haha)
Good luck in your search!
Cheers,
Tony
Associate Professor Anthony Dosseto
Wollongong Isotope Geochronology Laboratory
GeoQuest Research Centre - Co-Director
School of Earth, Atmospheric and Life Sciences
Faculty of Science, Medicine and Health
University of Wollongong NSW 2522
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Subject: Re: [Aqualist] Lake cores and speleothems
Hi Alex,
Simon Haberle (also CABAH) and I are planning on doing just that in PNG!
My background is in speleothem paleoclimatology (I've worked in Sulawesi, Indonesia and the US southwest).
I will be going with Simon to PNG early next year to scout out ideal cave sites.
Cheers,
Ali
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Subject: [Aqualist] Lake cores and speleothems
Hi all,
I'm hoping for some light crowd-sourcing--if you're aware of a study comparing climate proxies in lake cores to those in nearby speleothems, please point me in its direction!
Thanks and happy holidays,
Alex
*Alexander F. Wall*
PhD Student
ARC Centre of Excellence for Australian Biodiversity and Heritage
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Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 22:44:29 +0000
From: Andy Baker <a.baker at unsw.edu.au>
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Hello,
If the AQUA 'crowd source' isn't successful, I could forward your request to a global speleothem list.
Like Jon, I can't recall a published example of an experiment designed to intentionally compare lakes and speleothems, but I know colleagues who have discussed this idea (e.g. Matt Jones, Nottingham, UK, using forward models and Turkish speleothems and lakes). Tony is correct, there is the Spannagel composite speleothem record in Europe has been compared to nearby lakes (See Nicole Vollweiler's GRL paper in 2006) for the late Holocene.
My suspicion is that it has been tried and there's data in theses, and also stories of failure out there. For myself, colleagues (Ian Boomer, Birmingham, UK) cored Loch Assynt in NW Scotland to get a lake record adjacent to our adjacent speleothem site to try to calibrate and extend the speleothem-based NAO-proxy. But the lake sediments were all reworked peat and that was that....
Yours,
Andy
UNSW SYDNEY, NSW 2052, AUSTRALIA
+61(0)4 501 48648??? Room 5114, Biological Sciences South (E26)
Director of Research, School of Biological Earth and Environmental Sciences: http://bees.unsw.edu.au?
Associate Editor, Water Research
@baker_and???????????????
http://bakerlabgroup.org
http://groundwaterDOC.org
https://research.unsw.edu.au/people/professor-andy-baker?
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Sent: Wednesday, 27 November 2019 11:53 PM
To: Alex Wall <alexfwall at gmail.com>
Cc: Aqualist at anu.edu.au
Subject: Re: [Aqualist] Lake cores and speleothems
Hi Alex,
off the top of my head, I can't think of any that explicitly combine data from speleothems and lakes. I'm sure there are though. The attached papers by Broxton Bird on Laguna Pumacocha (Peru) make a convincing case for the similarity between d18O records from lakes, speleothems and ice cores in the region.
As for explicit combination of data from lakes vs something else, John Anderson's work on Kassjon comparing diatoms and tree ring widths might be of interest:
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1365-2486.1996.tb00090.x
Hope this helps a bit
Jon
On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 at 23:09, Alex Wall <alexfwall at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm hoping for some light crowd-sourcing--if you're aware of a study
> comparing climate proxies in lake cores to those in nearby
> speleothems, please point me in its direction!
>
> Thanks and happy holidays,
> Alex
>
>
> *Alexander F. Wall*
>
> PhD Student
>
> ARC Centre of Excellence for Australian Biodiversity and Heritage
>
> School of Earth, Atmospheric and Life Sciences/SMAH University of
> Wollongong NSW 2522 Australia
>
> [image: image.jpeg]
> [image: image.png]
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 22:52:21 +0000 (UTC)
From: Parastoo <p_yazdaan at yahoo.com>
To: "a.baker at unsw.edu.au" <a.baker at unsw.edu.au>, Jonathan Tyler
<jonathan.tyler at adelaide.edu.au>, Alex Wall <alexfwall at gmail.com>
Cc: "Aqualist at anu.edu.au" <Aqualist at anu.edu.au>
Subject: Re: [Aqualist] Lake cores and speleothems
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Morning all,
I hope this email finds you all well.
As I don't know who is the admin of this group, I should reply to all.
Could you please just remove my email address from AQUA list. I don't want to receive more emails. Thanks
Regards,Parastoo
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On Thu, 28 Nov. 2019 at 9:49 am, Andy Baker<a.baker at unsw.edu.au> wrote: Hello,
If the AQUA 'crowd source' isn't successful, I could forward your request to a global speleothem list.
Like Jon, I can't recall a published example of an experiment designed to intentionally compare lakes and speleothems, but I know colleagues who have discussed this idea (e.g. Matt Jones, Nottingham, UK, using forward models and Turkish speleothems and lakes). Tony is correct, there is the Spannagel composite speleothem record in Europe has been compared to nearby lakes (See Nicole Vollweiler's GRL paper in 2006) for the late Holocene.
My suspicion is that it has been tried and there's data in theses, and also stories of failure out there. For myself, colleagues (Ian Boomer, Birmingham, UK) cored Loch Assynt in NW Scotland to get a lake record adjacent to our adjacent speleothem site to try to calibrate and extend the speleothem-based NAO-proxy. But the lake sediments were all reworked peat and that was that....
Yours,
Andy
UNSW SYDNEY, NSW 2052, AUSTRALIA
+61(0)4 501 48648??? Room 5114, Biological Sciences South (E26)
Director of Research, School of Biological Earth and Environmental Sciences: http://bees.unsw.edu.au?
Associate Editor, Water Research
@baker_and???????????????
http://bakerlabgroup.org
http://groundwaterDOC.org
https://research.unsw.edu.au/people/professor-andy-baker?
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To: Alex Wall <alexfwall at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Aqualist] Lake cores and speleothems
Hi Alex,
off the top of my head, I can't think of any that explicitly combine data from speleothems and lakes. I'm sure there are though. The attached papers by Broxton Bird on Laguna Pumacocha (Peru) make a convincing case for the similarity between d18O records from lakes, speleothems and ice cores in the region.
As for explicit combination of data from lakes vs something else, John Anderson's work on Kassjon comparing diatoms and tree ring widths might be of interest:
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1365-2486.1996.tb00090.x
Hope this helps a bit
Jon
On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 at 23:09, Alex Wall <alexfwall at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm hoping for some light crowd-sourcing--if you're aware of a study
> comparing climate proxies in lake cores to those in nearby
> speleothems, please point me in its direction!
>
> Thanks and happy holidays,
> Alex
>
>
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