[LINK] RFI: P2P Traffic 2005-06

Kim Holburn kim at holburn.net
Sun Aug 6 22:26:59 AEST 2006


On thinking about it only SMTP fits.  The others don't really do any  
automatic configuration.

I was wondering though, what about the botnets themselves?

On 2006 Aug 05, at 1:10 PM, Kim Holburn wrote:
> On 2006 Aug 05, at 12:45 PM, Roger Clarke wrote:
>
>> At 12:17 +1000 5/8/06, Kim Holburn wrote:
>>> Does mention DNS but not SMTP, ntp, usenet/nntp?
>>
>> A fair point - but they're hard work to retro-fit the definitions to!
>
> I'm not sure I see the difficulty if DNS is P2P then SMTP should  
> be.  If you view the world as just SMTP servers then they surely  
> talk in a P2P fashion.  In that view clients are outside the edge.
>
> The problem is this definition:
> "any device that is acting as a client is able to find one or more  
> devices that are performing server-functions;"
> Same for DNS and SMTP (and usenet) you have to get started off -  
> have an initial server pointed out to you then you're away.
> Same for usenet too.
>
> Because they are very early implementations and because they are  
> very basic to internet infrastructure they don't have automatic  
> configuration but once past that hurdle that they are very P2P like.

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