[LINK] Surveillance in extremis

Deus Ex Machina vicc at cia.com.au
Tue Aug 22 12:16:47 AEST 2006


it does mean that if you are going to abuse your bin, you do it in the
neighbours bin. what next padlocks on the bins?

Vic

Geoff Ramadan [gramadan at umd.com.au] wrote:
> The system has the potential to charge by volume, but I don't know of 
> anyone using it this way in Australia, nor did I see any reference of this 
> in the article.
> 
> Geoffrey Ramadan
> 
> Chris Maltby wrote:
> >On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 08:23:19AM +1000, Howard Lowndes wrote:
> >>As I guessed when I posted the article, it sounds like a (I'm guessing) 
> >>right wing council (Ryde) not communicating with its ratepayers, and a 
> >>left wing government (NSW) trying to make political mileage.
> >
> >Well, no one would call Ryde council left wing, but neither would anyone
> >other than Vic put the same tag on the NSW government. Both are dominated
> >by the ALP Right machine.
> >
> >The issue is potentially a green one though - tracking rubbish volume
> >enables the option of charging based on waste generated, putting a
> >price incentive on the consumer to avoid high-waste packaging and
> >increase re-use and recycling. There are issue with whether this kind
> >of charge falls in accordance with capacity to pay or modify behaviour
> >though. The reality in Ryde is anyone's guess.
> >
> >My guess is that Watkins thinks he can beat up this issue to make
> >political capital.
> >
> >Chris
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