[LINK] Surveillance in extremis

Deus Ex Machina vicc at cia.com.au
Tue Aug 22 15:51:25 AEST 2006


the workforce is forecast to plummet as the boomers retire. not relavent
to the next election but crucial for the next couple of decades.

Vic

Howard Lowndes [lannet at lannet.com.au] wrote:
> Unfortunately I think Workchoices legislation is a non sequeteur as far 
> as the ALP is concerned.  I think at the moment, with high employment 
> levels, the majority of staff are able to negotiate good AWAs for 
> themselves; sure, the unions are waving around a few examples of bad 
> AWAs but they are very few and far between.  The problem for workers on 
> AWAs will be when, not if, the big R occurs and then they will find out 
> what they have signed up to.  If they try to jack up then, then they 
> will be on the street.
> 
> The ALP, if it was truly against Workchoices, should have taken the bold 
> step of threatening business that the ALP will not only tear up AWAs if 
> they get into power, but the whole process will be retrospectively 
> punitive against any business that imposed AWAs.  It would be a bold 
> step, and if strong employment continues until after the next election 
> would be political suicide for Kim. The last thing we will see bandied 
> about before the next election is the R word, even though it might be 
> starting to happen now.
> 
> Deus Ex Machina wrote:
> >grove at zeta.org.au [grove at zeta.org.au] wrote:
> >>On Tue, 22 Aug 2006, Deus Ex Machina wrote:
> >>
> >>>you say that but tell me one underlying principle of the labor party
> >>>which they can push which differentiates them from the libs which either
> >>>hasnt been discredited or that the libs havent already sawn up?
> >>Workchoices Legislation.
> >
> >this one has already been discredited. making staff harder to fire makes
> >them harder to employ. even socialist france and germany acknowledge that 
> >point.
> >
> >didnt the reserve bank just come strongly in favour of workfore
> >flexibility? and frankly I dont see why as soon as you are without an abn
> >you have a right to profit but as soon as you have abn you dont.
> >
> >its a loooser going into to bat for the unions. australia entrpreneurial
> >class has grown too much from the old union days.
> >
> >Vic
> >
> 
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