[LINK] Professors Call Both Sides Wrong on Privacy
Geoffrey Ramadan
gramadan at umd.com.au
Thu Oct 26 23:05:37 AEST 2006
Howard Lowndes wrote:
>
>
> Geoff Ramadan wrote:
>> The trouble is, that you cannot run a business (any business
>> including Government business) with out information.
>
> ...and that is all the more reason why access to that gathered
> information has to be tightly constrained.
I agree with this. I suppose the issue is where you draw the line
between "constrained" and "strangled".
Geoffrey Ramadan
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Geoffrey Ramadan, B.E.(Elec)
>> Chairman, Automatic Data Capture Australia (www.adca.com.au)
>> and
>> Managing Director, Unique Micro Design (www.umd.com.au)
>>
>>
>> Adam Todd wrote:
>>>
>>> See I have this issue about Fraud.
>>>
>>> You can't defraud if you have no information. Because you can't
>>> create a fraudulent entity without first getting information. (Or
>>> creating it from nothing.)
>>>
>>> You can't beat fraud by removing privacy, because the mere fact that
>>> a person can retain their privacy and oppose another using their
>>> identity fraudulently proves the fraud.
>>>
>>> Giving our private information increases the chance of fraud
>>> multiple. I know, I have a father who uses my name, date of birth
>>> and address as a means of identifying himself as me.
>>>
>>> It's hard to prove I'm me, when he knows my details and identifies
>>> himself as me first. Who am I? According to some, I'm not who I
>>> claim to be.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At 06:56 AM 26/10/2006, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote:
>>>> Professors Call Both Sides Wrong on Privacy
>>>> Sue Bushell
>>>> CIO
>>>> 24/10/2006 12:40:06
>>>> http://www.cio.com.au/index.php/id;1659801180;fp;4;fpid;21
>>>>
>>>> Should households be granted the right to control their personal
>>>> information and to refuse to give it out, as some privacy advocates
>>>> insist? Or are those economists right who argue that privacy in any
>>>> form is harmful since it restricts information flow and hence
>>>> inhibits decision-making, increases transaction costs and
>>>> encourages fraud?
>>>>
>>>> Two professors at University of California, Berkeley's Haas School
>>>> of Business have recently weighed in on this seemingly endless
>>>> debate to argue their conclusion that neither approach is right.
>>>>
>>>> In an article in the September issue of the journal Quantitative
>>>> Marketing and Economics, Professors Benjamin Hermalin and Michael
>>>> Katz note that privacy can be efficient in certain circumstances
>>>> but that privacy property rights - personal control over one's
>>>> personal information - are often worthless.
>>>>
>>>> "Our analysis demonstrates that there are complicated tradeoffs
>>>> missed by both sides of the debate," they write. "Certainly in the
>>>> case of employment, changes in privacy policy can make some
>>>> households winners and others losers."
>>>>
>>>> The authors note that there has been a long history of contentious
>>>> policy debates and governmental efforts to protect personal
>>>> privacy, particularly the ability to maintain control over the
>>>> dissemination of personally identifiable data: privacy as secrecy.
>>>>
>>>> And they say recent technological developments in information
>>>> collection and processing have heightened privacy concerns, with
>>>> online bookstores knowing what you like to read, TiVo reporting
>>>> personal viewing habits to the company's central database, and
>>>> airlines keeping a record of where you travel. Meanwhile every year
>>>> privacy bills are introduced in state legislatures and the US
>>>> Congress in response to privacy concerns, yet there is little
>>>> consensus on the appropriate approach.
>>>>
>>>> "There are many calls for strong governmental intervention to
>>>> restrict the use of personally identifiable data. However, there
>>>> are also calls simply to establish appropriate property rights to
>>>> information on the grounds that market forces will then lead to
>>>> efficient privacy levels," they say.
>>>>
>>>> The authors note that proponents of the Chicago School have
>>>> labelled privacy harmful to efficiency because it stops information
>>>> flows that would otherwise lead to improved levels of economic
>>>> exchange. And they agree there are some situations in which
>>>> allowing households to reveal personally identifiable information
>>>> is beneficial because it allows firms to make tailored offers that
>>>> facilitate transactions that otherwise might not have occurred.
>>>>
>>>> Yet they insist that, contrary to the Chicago School argument, the
>>>> flow of information from one trading partner to the other can
>>>> reduce ex post trade efficiency when the increase in information
>>>> does not lead to symmetrically or fully informed parties.
>>>>
>>>> With so many people making extreme claims in discussions of privacy
>>>> and related public policy, and with so little understanding of the
>>>> underlying economics, it is important to identify the fundamental
>>>> forces clearly, they conclude.
>>>>
>>>> "Both sides of the e-commerce privacy debate have overstated their
>>>> cases," they say.
>>>>
>>>> While failing to come to any definitive conclusions about whether
>>>> one can identify conditions under which public policy should or
>>>> should not promote privacy, they authors conclude that the
>>>> assignment of privacy rights to personally identifiable information
>>>> may have no effect on agents' equilibrium welfare levels and need
>>>> not lead to an efficient equilibrium privacy level.
>>>>
>>>> "In some situations, the only effective policy would be explicitly
>>>> to block the dissemination or use of such information. Public
>>>> policy could block dissemination in several ways. One is to make it
>>>> illegal to reveal personally identifiable data. Another is to
>>>> destroy employment or prison records or other forms of tangible
>>>> evidence, which would prevent households from credibly revealing
>>>> the information even if they chose to do so. A related policy would
>>>> be to refuse to enforce sanctions against people who lie about
>>>> their protected characteristics," they conclude.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> brd
>>>>
>>>> Bernard Robertson-Dunn
>>>> Sydney Australia
>>>> brd at iimetro.com.au
>>>>
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