What is IP and whose interests does copyright protect Re: [LINK] web site choices.

[Marghanita da Cruz]

Roger Clarke wrote:
> At 16:08 +1000 7/9/06, Marghanita da Cruz wrote:
> 
>> Derivative seems to have quite a broad defintion... - converting PDF to
>> HTML, presumeably also ASCII text to HTML, Browser Rendered text to a
>> podcast, quotation and now paraphrasing.
>>
>> But technically, to view a webpage don't visitors to a website, take a
>> copy and in effect make a derivative in their browser?
> 
> 
> I don't intend 'derivative' to include a merely 'format-converted' 
> version.  (By 'translated' I meant 'translated into another natural 
> language').

...is there metadata to stop Google etc doing this?

> 
> The AEShareNet FfE licence is quite specific about this:
> http://www.aesharenet.com.au/coreBusiness/whatWeDo/pdf/179glossaryexplanation.pdf 
> 
> 
> Derivative  means any of the following, Developed from the original 
> Licensed Material:
> - an Edited Version
> - Enhancements
> - Supplementary Work
> - a Compilation.
> See separate definitions of these terms.  Note that if a Copy of the 
> Licensed Material in one  format is used by some automated process to 
> create a Copy in another format, this does not  necessarily amount to a 
> Derivative.  A Derivative usually entails alteration involving human  
> selection and judgment.
> 
> 
>> Also, is there a separation of the text on the page from the rendition
>> of the text...effectively the HTML incorporating the text is a
>> derivative of the text provided to a web publisher for a particular
>> purpose. On some of the webpages on the Ramin Communications site, I
>> make a distinction of copyright between the content and the webpages.
> 
> 
> My understanding is that you can licence uses of content without 
> licensing uses of a particular format.
> 
> For example, some journals that demand assignment of copyright from 
> authors provide the author with a licence to publish on their own site, 
> but preclude the author from publishing the format used by the journal 
> (because they think that the format in which they publish is some kind 
> of value-add, and/or they want the appearance of their papers to help 
> them build and sustain their brand-name).

...I have just come across the opposite...The publisher has provided a
non-printable PDF file for use on my website after a specific period.
> 
> But, as ever, IANAL, and I defer to link-denizens who know more about 
> the legals of all this.
> 

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Marghanita da Cruz
Ramin Communications
http://www.ramin.com.au
Phone: 0414-869202
Email: marghanita at ramin.com.au