[LINK] What does Google Books allow you to download?

[Graham Greenleaf]

At 4:38 PM +1000 11/9/06, Marghanita da Cruz wrote:
>Ok,
>
>could you provide a link to an example of what you are talking about?

Search for Tom Paine (no quotes) over Full View Books. Compare first 
two results:

The Works of Thomas Paine: A Hero in the American Revolution. With an 
Account of His Life ... - Page xlviii
by Thomas Paine - 1854

The Theological Works of Thomas Paine: To which are Added the 
Profession of Faith of a Savoyard... - Page 192
by Thomas Paine, Jean-Jacques Rousseau - 1834 - 384 pages

The first has a download button, the second does not. Same author, 
and the 20 years difference in publication should make no difference 
after 150 years.

- Graham

>
>M
>Graham Greenleaf wrote:
>>Marghanita,
>>
>>Not the point ... 'download' is very different from 'full view': 
>>you can actually download and re-use a full copy. With 'full view' 
>>you can only read one page at a time, and only then embedded within 
>>a non-removable Google page. The difference between 'read only' and 
>>'do whatever you like' (except removing Google's watermark).
>>
>>The question is how Google chooses, from all the books in the 
>>public domain for which it provides 'full view' which ones it also 
>>allows 'download'.
>>
>>- Graham
>>
>>
>>At 4:13 PM +1000 11/9/06, Marghanita da Cruz wrote:
>>
>>>Graham Greenleaf wrote:
>>>
>>>>Linkers,
>>>>
>>>>As of early this month, Google Books allows downloading of image 
>>>>PDFs of some books in the public domain. I can't figure out what 
>>>>policy determines which such books you can download, and which 
>>>>you can only view as 'Full view books'. But it is only a sub-set.
>>>>
>>>>Nothing on About Google Books explains this, and comments on the 
>>>>web are all along the lines of  "Google Inc. plans to begin 
>>>>letting consumers download and print free of charge classic 
>>>>novels and many other, more obscure books that are in the public 
>>>>domain." - none explain why some and not others.
>>>>
>>>>Can anyone shed any light on this?
>>>
>>><snip>
>>>
>>>text below is 
>>>from<http://books.google.com/intl/en/googlebooks/screenshots.html#fullview>
>>>
>>>>No Preview Available  |  Snippet View  |  Limited Preview  |  Full View
>>>>
>>>>No Preview Available
>>>>
>>>>Like a card catalog, you're able to see basic information about 
>>>>the book. However, you'll also be able to know if your search 
>>>>term appears anywhere in the book's text, even if it's not in the 
>>>>title or index.
>>>>
>>>>Snippet View
>>>>
>>>>The Snippet View, like a card catalog, shows information about 
>>>>the book plus a few snippets - a few sentences of your search 
>>>>term in context.
>>>>
>>>>Limited Preview
>>>>
>>>>If the publisher or author has given us permission, users can see 
>>>>a limited number of pages from the book. Full  View
>>>>
>>>>You can see books in the Full View if the book is out of 
>>>>copyright, or if the publisher or author has asked to make the 
>>>>book fully viewable. The Full View allows you to view any page 
>>>>from the book.
>>>
>>>
>>>This book is worth a read and also available on google books...
>>>at 
>>><http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN0521534267&id=EGwWmEjL6hoC&pg=PA3&lpg=PR7&vq=one+tell&sig=9Na51SsU_kEJfqHjbIfJ3qlhGWI>
>>>
>>>>Corporate Collapse: Accounting, Regulatory and Ethical Failure
>>>>By Frank Clarke, Graeme Dean, Kyle Oliver
>>>
>>>....
>>>
>>>>Page displayed by permission.
>>>>Published by Cambridge University Press
>>>
>>>
>>>M
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