[LINK] Scientists offered cash to dispute climate study

Alan L Tyree alan at austlii.edu.au
Mon Feb 5 14:03:23 AEDT 2007


On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 13:46:51 +1100 (EST)
grove at zeta.org.au wrote:

> On Mon, 5 Feb 2007, Alan L Tyree wrote:
> 
> >> That's debatable. In any case, when the oil runs out the
> >> devastation will be incredible. Think six billion starving people.
> >> They'll erase almost everything on the land surface of the planet
> >> as they go.
> >
> > During WW II the Germans made oil-type products from coal. I don't
> > know what technology is involved, but is it a substitute? The
> > "peak" for coal is many, many times further away than for oil.
> 
> One thing that cannot be made without oil is jet fuel.    AFAIK,
> biofuels and synthetics aren't good enough to get the octanes
> required for the big jets.

Is this right? (Honest question). I thought that the Germans made fuel
for fighter planes (which did require high octane) and that modern jets
burned something closer to kerosene.

Alan

> 
> I am bemused by how jet travel globally is treated as such a low end 
> commodity.   The single biggest thing that can be done is to 
> raise the current price of a plane ticket to wherever by a factor of
> 20.
> 
> This would better reflect the value of the fuel and the stupidity 
> of running half full jet liners around the place burning up useful
> fuel.
> 
> When our PM was recently admonished for using the Airforce plane to 
> go on his holidays, he was happy to pay back the few hundred bucks 
> his commercial ticket would've cost, but failed to cough up for the 
> $5000 an hour fuel costs that are actually incurred.
> 
> I also wonder why no one has taken seriously the use of airships
> (blimp, zeppelin etc) in this day and age.   Modern air ships are
> safe, reliable and environmentally friendly and can carry large
> cargoes from point to point without the need for major airport
> infrastructure, fuel and so on.
> 
> 
> rachel
> 
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> Rachel Polanskis                 Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney,
> Australia grove at zeta.org.au
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> essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or
> security" - Benjamin Franklin, 1759
> 


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