[LINK] New Core Body Of Knowledge for the ICT Profession
steve jenkin
sjenkin at canb.auug.org.au
Sun Jul 1 10:26:59 AEST 2007
Darryl (Dassa) Lynch wrote on 1/7/07 9:59 AM:
> Glen wrote:
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>>> 4)
>>> Why is not ability to program and operate a computer mandatory?
>>> It should not be possible to be a ICT Professional by taking
>>> only IT management topics at university.
>>>
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> No ICT Professional comes out of a university, only trainees. As with most
> of the people I know in the industry, no one is thought a professional until
> they have had five years worthwhile experience in the real world.
>
I have a more pessimistic view than Darryl.
5 years on, and most uni. graduates I've met, I'd still not put in
charge of getting coffee, let alone code.
On the ADCNET project, one of the programmers was 7-10 years post
graduation - his code was atrocious, and none had ever been put into
production. Later I was re-hired to sort out something he'd written... A
mess.
During the ABN on-line registrations I was told by a 30yo: "Don't worry
about errors".
The software subcontracters were ISO9001 accredited too.
Final load was 25 times their design load, and of course the design
didn't degrade gracefully but failed radically.
Nor did they design *any* monitoring in. And a bunch more stuff.
I added all this "unnecessary stuff" and they survived where they didn't
deserve to - and they got a commendation from the Deputy Commissioner
for it ;-)
Once talked to Glen B Alleman <http://www.niwotridge.com/> about what
they do at NASA.
It takes a decade or two before they'll let someone work on code without
"adult supervision".
They're serious about Cost, Time, Quality, Reliability/Survivability,
Function and Performance - and they do it.
I'd rather have a Uni grad than most "self-taught" experts, very few
understand the complexity and problems. The worst have the magic triplet
"arrogance, ignorance and incompetence" in spades. Even worse are these
ppl with a chip on their shoulders...
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