[LINK] Haneef transcript anyone?

Adam Todd link at todd.inoz.com
Sat Jul 21 12:36:44 AEST 2007


At 08:23 PM 20/07/2007, Ash Nallawalla wrote:

> > 13:00 and still following up, google now reports 553 pages, with some
> > that were there an hour ago literally vanishing for no reason at
> > all.  Even the web site has just vanished.
> >
> > It's like the Ministry of Truth.
>
>If you care to observe any other site that shows fresh content, e.g. blogs,
>you will find that all such results in Google will disappear for a day or
>more while the Thought Police, sorry, the Google algorithm decides the best
>ranking for it.

(rofl) Gee you make Google sound like the Defacto Thought 
Police!  Maybe they are and we just don't know it!

If the algorithm puts it in to results adhoc, on what basis does the 
new data suddenly "vanish" - the only conclusion has to be human intervention.

>For example, a few days ago I blogged about the ACCC taking on Google and
>the Trading Post. My blog (I just changed its URL) was #3 for "Kloster
>Ford". It disappeared for two days, and now it is slightly lower -- in what
>could be its semi-permanent position for that phrase.

That's ridiculous.  That's not an algorithm, that's manual ranking.

It's evident that new pages relating to Haneef are being manually 
removed.  Surely someone managed to get a copy of the transcripts and 
repost them - surly not everyone was stupid enough to simply LINK to 
the Australian's news page?

I'm sure they will surface one day, we just have to be patient.

>All newly found pages are given a brief exposure on the first page so that
>the algo can determine which of them attract clicks, which is then part of
>the data used to give them their semi-permanent rankings for various
>phrases.

That sounds silly.  Why put up pages that most people are unlikely to 
see on the basis of determining clicks?

If this is the case, then the solution is simple.

Create a script that monitors your page, when googlebot picks it up, 
regularly do searches for the relevant keywords.  When your page 
appears on the link, get it hundreds of times per hour and voila - 
suddenly you have a high click ratio.  Direct the get's via proxy 
servers or random allocated IP addresses from a class C or greater 
and you have gets coming from all over the place.

Surely not.

If the search engines are being this manipulative, isn't it time we 
got together and built a real search engine?

Or should we perhaps resorc to the Way Back Machine or Internet 
Archive for accuracy.




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