[LINK] The PLAN, and broadband speeds?

[Richard Chirgwin]

Stephen Loosley wrote:
> At 10:33 AM 19/06/2007, Saliya Wimalaratne writes:
>
>   
>>> Has anyone seen the detail of this 'new' 'plan'?  Jan
>>>       
>> in general, the longer the range, the lower the frequencies used
>> (and the lower the bandwidth available per 'channel').. There are
>> guys overseas that have done a 5GHz 300km WLAN point-to-point
>> ink that they tested at about 5Mbps throughput - but they were using 
>> 600mW of tx power, what is claimed to be 'the best' receive sensitive
>> equipment in the world, and what looked like about 35dB of homemade
>> antenna gain - an EIRP of about 175W! Regards, Saliya
>>     
>
> With regards to "The PLAN", perhaps it may include mesh-arrangements?
>   
I think not, and you (ie, Stephen as an individual user) would much 
prefer a point-to-point connection than being part of a mesh. That way, 
your tail bandwidth is your own (or at worst shared between X users in 
the same antenna footprint).

[snip]
> And, secondly, when country-wide broadband is satisfactorily achieved, we have:
>
> <http://australianit.news.com.au/story/0,24897,21926920-16123,00.html>
>
> Australian net users were becoming hungrier for bandwidth (but) TeleGeography
> research analyst Eric Schoonover said Australian service providers paid some
> of the most expensive international data carriage prices in the world. 
>
> "Right now, regards international capacity there are only two routes out - AJC and
> Southern Cross," Mr Schoonover said.  Bevan Slattery, chief executive of network
> infrastructure provider Pipe Networks, said recent events exposed a serious flaw
> in plans by the federal Government and carriers to promise Australian high-speed
> broadband services. 
>
> "This is the big fraud on fibre-to-the-node," Mr Slattery said. 
>   
Bevan is dead right, and has been saying so for quite some time. The 
"short" version is simple: what's the point of 100 Mbps if all you do is 
consume your monthly allowance in the first four minutes?

The reason this is so often left unsaid is that many people don't care 
about you having a fast connection to the Internet. They want a monopoly 
fast connection to the home, with most of the bandwidth reserved for "in 
house" applications (ie, pay TV and content the carrier itself hosts). 
Then if you're lucky there's a little bit of pipe left over for an 
Internet service that's faster than today, but not by much.

Someone posted on Whirlpool the Telstra plans offered to Velocity 
customers - this is where Telstra puts fibre to the home in new 
developments under contract to the developer.

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/734912.html

RC
> Mr Slattery was referring to plans being considered by the Government to use
> fibre to upgrade Telstra's copper access network to carry 50Mbps broadband
> services in metropolitan areas. 
>
> Under the current backhaul pricing scheme, consumers with a monthly 80GB
> download quota could expect to run a 50Mbps internet service for about three
> hours before reaching their download quota, based on data provided by Pipe
> Networks. "Just because you've got a faster internet connection doesn't mean
> you're going to have a better internet experience," he said. "It just means you'll
> use your quota quicker. 
>
> "You know you can get 20Mbps to home, but it's not going to do you any good." 
>
> Traditionally, ISPs have priced their services by shifting the burden of backhaul
> pricing and international bandwidth costs to low-end users, Mr Slattery said. 
>
> ISPs had been able to price their services based on the assumption that their
> customers use only a portion of their download quota each month, Mr Malone 
> said. "Tier three/four internet providers could start feeling the margin squeeze
> if high-bandwidth users started moving to their services"   Mahesh Sharma
> --
>
> So, without more international links, what speed will *any* broadband plan run? 
>
> Cheers Linkers
> Stephen Loosley
> Victoria, Australia
>
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