[LINK] 'Electrical Energy Storage Unit'
Richard Chirgwin
rchirgwin at ozemail.com.au
Tue Apr 22 10:11:29 AEST 2008
Another clanger:
> This could translate into an electric vehicle capable of traveling up to
> 500 miles on a five minute charge, compared with current battery
> technology which offers an average 50-100 range on an overnight charge.
The "five minute charge" claim is nonsense. How long it takes to charge
electrical storage with a given amount of energy is also constrained by
what your power supply can deliver.
Imagine the maximum output of a standard Australian GPO: 240V at 10A, or
2.4 kWh. In five minutes, that delivers 2,400 / 12 = 0.12 kWh. That's
not enough to drive a car 500 miles. So you either have to have huge
current on the supply side, or accept that the supply is what constrains
the recharge cycle.
Also: capacitors have always been able to store large charges and
release them quickly. That's what they *do*.
The "ultra" in an ultracapacitor is the density and duration of its
storage - that is, you pack more charge into a smaller space, and it has
less "leak" within the capacitor (ie, slower self-discharge).
Wrapping the story in the quasi-religious mumbo-jumbo (like "no
chemicals" and "five minute charge") casts serious doubt either on
Naturalnews as a source of information, or on the people who briefed the
journalist ... possibly both.
RC
Stephen Wilson wrote:
>
> New capacitors are indeed great, even if the article contains at least
> two anti-scientific clangers, one of them serious:
>
> stephen at melbpc.org.au wrote:
>> I'll bet (hope) solar panels, teamed with an eesu, become a common
>> item ..
>> <http://www.naturalnews.com/023063.html>
>
>> It is claimed that this new advance allows for a specific energy of
>> about 280 watts per kilogram ...
>
> Careless. The Watt is a unit of power, not energy. The specific
> energy of a cell, battery or capacitor is usually measured in Watt
> Hours per Kg. There is such a thing as specific power but a figure of
> 280 watts per kilogram would be extremely modest.
>
> But less nit pickingly ...
>
>> Further, because it is based on a solid state design and not
>> dependent on chemicals, the technology would be extremely safe,
>> environmentally friendly ...
>
> This is potentially dangerous nonsense. "Not dependent of chemicals"
> simply because it's solid state? Sounds like the sort of
> superstitious claim made by some on behalf of organic foods: 'contain
> no chemicals'!
>
> All capacitors have 'chemicals' even if they are powders sealed inside
> the components. And some of them are very bad. Traditional high
> power capacitors used in electricity distribution use PCBs -- some of
> the most potent carcinogens known -- in their electrolytes, and
> represent a serious waste disposal problem. I don't know anything
> about barium-titanate but I do know it's a chemical.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Stephen Wilson
>
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