[LINK] China running out of IP addresses [Was: www.ipv6.org.au/summit]

[David Boxall]

Somebody big reckons they're about to hit the wall:
<http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2226849/china-running-ip-addresses>

...
> Chinese officials are calling for a mass migration to IPv6 after 
> disclosing that they have only 830 days' worth of IPv4 resources left.
...
>
> Vint Cerf, chief internet evangelist at Google, has warned that ISPs 
> are failing in their duty to inform customers of the coming switchover.
>
> "They are persisting in the 'nobody is asking for this' mentality, and 
> are not valuing business continuity as they should," he told /The Times/.
>
> "When they finally wake up, there is going to be a mad scramble for 
> IPv6 and they won't implement it properly."
>
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On 30/08/2008 at 7:45 PM stephen at melbpc.org.au wrote:
> Karl writes,
>
>   
>>> Yes, Geoff says "There's no IPv6 out there in production land and no
>>> IPv4 addresses left." "Failure," Huston said, "is an option with IPv6."
>
> Yes, we all agree IPv6 is a good thing, but so what, when, as Geoff says,
> the IP world is voting through in-action. One must wonder if the 'Various
> Registrar' IP-address-holdings have increased *substantially* lately? One
> feels certain Registrars, up to now selling lots of an unlimited resource 
> cheaply, surely now want to be selling limited resources more expensively.
>
> And hence in no real hurry to open up another unlimited virtual-landscape.
>
> It'll happen, no doubt, but not to the timetable demanded. Ok so what? It
> probably needs some IPv6 magicians coming up with a home-office must-have
> IPv6-killer-application the same as any popular technology. As all WinPCs
> since XP-SP1 handles IPv6, make us, the public want it, and we'll get it.
>
>>> (News report quote) he encouraged the industry to persist with IPv4 
>>> with intensive use of carrier-grade NATs."
>> ..
>> http://cidr-report.org/presentations/2008-08-21-ipv6-failure.pdf
>> Geoff Houston: "IPv6 still represents the lowest risk option of all
>> the potential futures". 
>
> And so in the apparently some-time-longer term, who wouldn't want it?
>
>   
>> If you hamstring "consumers" with paltry expectations, you'll be
>> building on a self-fulfilling prophecy. Let's not do that. Regards, K.
>
> I think the consumer has zero IPv6 knowledge, and therefore expectation,
> until they see a new technology they want. When it's IPv6, it'll happen.
>
>
> Cheers Karl
> Stephen Loosley
> Victoria, Australia