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Sat Feb 28 18:24:21 AEDT 2009
Financial Bookshelf: 'The Great Depression Ahead'
By EILEEN AJ CONNELLY 10 hours ago
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iJVsaPVQEy6-EvDsi89lL-
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NEW YORK (AP) If the economy looks like it's going downhill, just wait.
Government data released Friday showed the economy is slowing down much
more dramatically than economists expected. But the current economic woes
will pale in comparison to the big storm that's coming, predicts Harry S.
Dent Jr. in his book "The Great Depression Ahead."
"If you thought 2008 was scary, 2010 to 2012 will bring on the greatest
economic and banking crisis since the early 1930s," Dent writes,
forecasting that real estate, stocks and commodities will all fall much
further than they have already.
The founder of HS Dent, an economic research and forecasting company in
Tampa, Fla., Dent maintains the sharpest part of the decline will last at
least two years. He sees the Dow Jones industrial average falling as low
as 3,800, or just over half its current value.
The key to Dent's predictions are the various historical cycles his
research has identified.
The centerpiece is a 40-year demographic cycle that he says is winding
down because baby boomers have started to drastically reduce their
spending as they approach retirement. This change is the major factor
that will drive a steep economic downturn. But it's not an isolated
phenomenon, it's overlapped by other short-term, intermediate and long-
term cycles that show patterns in stock market corrections, technological
advances and commodity price changes, among other economic factors..
The Associated Press talked with Dent about the predictions behind "The
Great Depression Ahead" and the methods used to make those forecasts.
Q. Many critics have noted it's easy to pick out specifics for any given
time and miscues in your predictions about how the stock markets are
going to move or what will happen to the price of oil. Given that, how
much confidence can readers have in your forecasts?
A. What our firm does that nobody, and I mean nobody, nowhere does, is
predict trends decades in advance. When it comes to short term
predictions, you know how much I'm right? Sixty, maybe 70 percent of the
time. Our main message in this book is this is not just another
recession, this is a long-term peak in stocks, like 1929, 1968, and 1989-
90 in Japan.
This one's not going to be over in a year. We look at demographics, and
90 million baby boomers are switching from being spenders to savers.
Politicians think they're going to just fix the banking crisis, but what
they really have is a long-term demographic slide. Government is not
going to do the right thing, because you can't do anything about this.
Q. Even though they're aging, baby boomers are expected to live longer
and be more active than prior generations. Why won't that help boost the
economy?
A. Because of the spending cycle. People spend dramatically more money up
to age 50, and then they spend less for the rest of their lives. The baby
boomers are more active in retirement and they'll spend more in
retirement. But they'll spend less than they have up to now, because
their kids are gone and most of their durable goods are bought and paid
for. Even if these people are more active, they may be spending money on
vacations and rock climbing or whatever, but they're not spending money
on houses and cars and the other things that stimulate the economy.
Q. You say there will be no major technological innovations to spark the
economy in the next 15 years or so. Some people point to sustainable
or "green" technologies being implemented now in energy and other areas
to refute that. How do you back up your view?
A. We do think there are exciting new technologies that are being
developed nanotechnologies, biotech and robotics, for example. But we
focus more on technology cycles, which come in waves. There is always
innovation. But it's when these technologies hit critical mass, like the
Internet in 1994 to 1996, that they impact the broader economy. There are
a lot of things emerging now, but you've got to remember, PCs emerged in
the 1970s, but they didn't affect consumers that much until the 1990s.
We had a big cluster of things in the '60s and '70s that didn't emerge
until the 1990s. Technologies are extremely important and innovation is
still occurring. The iPhone's going to get better, broadband is going to
get better, but you don't get the same impact from those improvements
that you do from the adoption of computers and cell phones. Just like
generational things, they ebb and flow. The next generation will bring
nanotech and alternative energies and so forth, but we won't see the
impact of that for decades..
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