[LINK] IPTv

Kim Holburn kim at holburn.net
Thu Apr 15 20:48:00 AEST 2010


On 2010/Apr/15, at 4:50 PM, Scott Howard wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Kim Holburn <kim at holburn.net> wrote:
>
>>> Not sure whether this is a *good* reason or not, but keep in mind
>>> that Telstra/BigPond and Optus refuse to peer with any other ISP.
>>> This means it costs non-Telstra/Optus ISPs money to exchange data.
>>> Hence you find that unmetered sites tend to be those that peer with
>>> AARNET and PIPE.
>>
>> So effectively Telstra is blocking unmetered internet for most
>> Australians.
>>
>
> You do realize that this is _exactly_ the same model that exists in  
> the US,
> and basically the rest of the world - right?
>
> The Tier 1 ISP's in the US (ie, the equivalent of Telstra/Optus to  
> some
> extent) peer with nobody but themselves - just like in Australia.   
> Many of
> the other players peer with each other at public peering exchanges -  
> just
> like in Australia.
>
> As an end user, buying transit from a tier 1 will normally cost you  
> more
> than from one of the other players (despite the fact that that the  
> Tier 1's
> aren't paying a cent for their actual traffic, only for the network  
> to move
> it) - just like in Australia.
>
> The only real difference between Australia and the US is that the  
> cost of
> transporting the traffic to a suitable place to hand-off to the next  
> viable
> provider is much cheaper - in many cases the difference between a  
> few miles
> and many, many thousands of miles.

I just keep thinking of that 1Gbps, One Gigabit per second internet  
connection in Hong Kong.  At that rate I could download a monthly  
Australian download cap of 10GB in lets say 80 seconds, maybe two  
minutes.

I got used to unlimited accounts when I was in Europe.  It's really  
hard to get used to the ridiculous restrictions back here.

> (Yes, I've massively oversimplied the peering environment, but  
> it'strue
> enough to make the point)

So how come other countries, *most* other countries, have unlimited  
domestic internet accounts?  Including the US?  What are we doing  
differently?  What are we doing so wrong?

Kim

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