[LINK] Electronic witnessing [was: High Court case Re: Register Online to Vote Should be LLegal]
Tom Worthington
tom.worthington at tomw.net.au
Sat Jul 31 12:04:30 AEST 2010
Stephen Wilson wrote:
> Tom, you seem to be advocating no extra investment in security? ...
No. I am suggesting not burdening the electronic system with an
inappropriate security system designed to mimic paper.
I have experienced this with worker's compensation insurance in the ACT,
where the ACT Government required me to sign a statutory declaration to
say how much salary my company paid out.
I suggested instead that I simply send the details electronically along
with the payment. The electronic payment through the banking system
would provide sufficient evidence for the electronic document. The
government responded by saying I could send an electronic
form digitally signed. The logistics of having myself and a JP "sign" an
electronic statutory declaration made this a very silly idea.
> The AEC might not check handwritten signatures routinely, but I bet they
> dig them out when it comes to investigating electoral fraud ...
So you have a system which does not detect fraud, but instead might be
used if one is stumbled across? That does not sound a very useful way to
do things.
> Philip Argy's point was that there is no accepted way to even invoke an
> 'electronic witness' much less create enough forensic certainty to
> support AEC investigation. ...
My point is that use of such "electronic witness" is not the appropriate
way to provide the level of certainty needed.
> Digital signatures need not be any any more complex than credit cards or
> electronic bus tickets. ...
Melbourne seems to be currently experiencing problems with both credit
cards <http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/07/29/2967687.htm> and
electronic transport tickets
<http://spectrum.ieee.org/riskfactor/computing/it/australian-myki-ticketing-system-finally-rolls-out-on-trams-and-busses>.
Canberra is about to implement the "MyWay" smart card bus ticket system
<http://www.action.act.gov.au/myway.html>. It will be interesting to see
how that goes, given that Brisbane, Perth, Sydney and Melbourne have
had problems. I would be happy to take a party of Canberra bus
executives to Istanbul, so they can see how to do it properly:
<http://www.tomw.net.au/travel/istanbul.shtml>. ;-)
> Surely if we don't do something serious now about e-authentication ...
We can be serious about e-authentication by using technology appropriate
to the job, rather than ones which mimic manual systems and are
theoretically secure, but do not address real world problems.
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