[LINK] google misdeeds and Australia's Privacy Commissioner

Karl Auer kauer at biplane.com.au
Wed Jun 23 13:36:05 AEST 2010


On Wed, 2010-06-23 at 12:52 +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> this argument is about whether wifi sniffing is illegal, not whether it
> is unethical.
> 
> are you confused or are you deliberately muddying the waters?

Neither. I ventured a clearly identifiable opinion. Apologies if that is
against your rules of engagement.

> any other kind of collection is irrelevant to the arguments being made.

Agreed. The essential factor, however, is "collection", a word which was
absent from your statement that "overhearing something - or even
deliberately eavesdropping in public - is NOT illegal."

> > Software does not write itself, nor do records in a database write
> > themselves. Ergo, Google was deliberately collecting it. It may have
> 
> cars do not drive themselves, ergo any traffic accident is deliberate
> assault or murder.

For someone who complains so often about straw men, you certainly do
enjoy setting 'em up to knock 'em down!

If I drive a car into a person, I am held responsible unless the car
malfunctioned. Are you suggesting that the collection and storage of
wifi data by Google was down to a software bug?

> yes, well, anything is capable of mystifying someone who is determined
> to be mystified.

Doesn't answer the question, Craig. Please do enlighten me - how does
wifi store and collect data? Specifically, what data does it collect,
and where does it store it?

Regards, K.

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