[LINK] Newspapers online

David Goldstein wavey_one at yahoo.com
Tue Mar 30 14:50:34 AEDT 2010


Quality newspapers - UK (Daily Telegraph, Times, Guardian, Independent, FT), US (New York Times, Washington Post, WSJ), Australia (Australian), Germany (Die Zeit, Frankfurter Zeitung), France (Le Monde)... to begin. In the UK and Australia, well, that's it... the other countries there are other newspapers one could add.

You say there are reasons there are no new newspapers, but then you say news outlets can't start because of incumbents. You say online is the way to go it seems. There's nothing to stop anyone starting a blog for news in Adelaide. You seem to think they are good enough.

And of course Chinese newspapers will be cheaper.



----- Original Message ----
> From: Kim Holburn <kim at holburn.net>
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> Sent: Tue, 30 March, 2010 2:26:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [LINK] Newspapers online
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> 
On 2010/Mar/30, at 2:01 PM, David Goldstein wrote:

> Your price 
> comparison is arguably artificial given that for the  
> previous 5 
> years, up until about 9 months ago, the price comparison  
> was over 
> $2, and up to to $2.50. From memory the New York Times is US 
> $5 on 
> Sundays. So Australian newspapers ARE cheap.

Not in a major way.  
> There's a difference between costs compared by a  
currency conversion 
> and the costs as say a percentage of the average  
wage.  Even a 
> double the price I think you'll find newspaper costs are  
reasonably 
> comparable.  IAMAE (I'm not an economist) though.  Actually  
> 
Chinese papers are much cheaper by your yardstick.

> As for the 
> Metro in Europe being free, well, there are free  
> newspapers in 
> Australia too of the same quality.

By what metric do you measure 
> quality?

> And of course, if Adelaide's citizens were so unimpressed 
> with their  
> newspapers, there would be some willing entrepreneur 
> who could start  
> another paper.

I know some people who 
> tried.  The incumbent paper reacted big time  
and they were frozen 
> out of newsagents.

> Or Fairfax. Oops. Same deal 
> really.

There's a reason we're not seeing new major daily newspapers 
> being  
started.

> And of course, there's no need to buy the 
> Advertiser, or any other  
> Murdoch newspaper. As you keep saying, 
> there is news for free online.


So far.  And of course some 
> people like the smell of the paper, the  
blackening of the fingers 
> etc.

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