[LINK] Newspapers online

David Goldstein wavey_one at yahoo.com
Tue Mar 30 16:05:20 AEDT 2010


Since when is a metric required for discussion on Link? With the exception of Roger and Tom, there's very little evidence-based discussion here. 



----- Original Message ----
> From: Kim Holburn <kim at holburn.net>
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> Sent: Tue, 30 March, 2010 3:50:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [LINK] Newspapers online
> 
> 
On 2010/Mar/30, at 2:50 PM, David Goldstein wrote:

> Quality 
> newspapers - UK (Daily Telegraph, Times, Guardian,  
> Independent, 
> FT), US (New York Times, Washington Post, WSJ),  
> Australia 
> (Australian), Germany (Die Zeit, Frankfurter Zeitung),  
> France (Le 
> Monde)... to begin. In the UK and Australia, well, that's  
> it... 
> the other countries there are other newspapers one could add.

I didn't 
> ask what newspapers you consider quality papers, I asked what  
metric 
> do you use?

Metric: A metric is a measure for quantitatively 
> assessing,  
controlling or selecting a person, process, event, or 
> institution,  
along with the procedures to carry out measurements and 
> the procedures  
for the interpretation of the assessment in the light 
> of previous or  
comparable assessments.

In other words how would 
> you measure this "quality"?  Is there an  
objective way of 
> measuring this or is it just your opinion?

> You say there are reasons 
> there are no new newspapers,

yep.

> but then you say news 
> outlets can't start because of incumbents.

yep - one of the 
> reasons.

> You say online is the way to go it seems.

I don't 
> think I actually said that and it's not necessarily true  
either.  
> For instance there is the ..... Kindle!

> There's nothing to stop 
> anyone starting a blog for news in Adelaide.

Lots of them.

> 
> You seem to think they are good enough.

Sturgeon's Law still applies - 
> 90% are crud.

> And of course Chinese newspapers will be 
> cheaper.

???

Because Chinese papers aren't as good quality?  
> Gets back to your  
metric.

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