[LINK] Europe to get new broadband satellite(s)
Jan Whitaker
jwhit at melbpc.org.au
Sun Nov 28 10:27:05 AEDT 2010
At 09:59 AM 28/11/2010, Richard Chirgwin you wrote:
> > Perhaps this is part of the hidden information in
> > the business plan. Mustn't scare the rural horses, so to speak.
> >
> > Jan
>
>Jan,
>
>Aren't you being a bit harsh here? Satellite for the last couple of
>percent has been in the NBN planning since pretty much the day it was
>announced. And what are they not being truthful about? - Since the
>satellite hasn't been designed yet, I presume its coverage and
>transponders would be designed for the service it's meant to deliver.
No, I don't think I'm being harsh because of the sort of information
that is being sold to the whole public at the moment. I believe
Fernando makes a good point. There are Quality of Service aspects to
the satellite delivery that hasn't been part of the general
discussion. If you were in Woop Woop and expect to have equivalent
service via satellite, even if you think at a slower speed, then you
may be disappointed by the lag. (think the delay effects of the voice
services we put up with; it's part of the physics of distance) We've
had that discussion in the past on link, I think, when discussing
rural access to broadband at all in terms of wifi. It's not going to
get you the same QoS as fibre. Neither will satellite, and I don't
think that has been exposed. I wonder if Bob Katter gets that. I doubt it.
Is it a best option to have satellite? If the bottom line is to
provide some service, then yes. At any cost? I don't know. The
overheads are higher. The cost per person served is higher. Just like
shared HFC has usage contention issues, so will satellite. How many
'dark' transponders do you include to cater for demand growth? Are
there other applications of a satellite service that could be sold
off (tv perhaps?) to spread the cost? Spare capacity as a revenue
source? Back-up for large government data movement doesn't require
realtime interaction?
>BTW, I don't think a Northern Hemisphere satellite aimed at Europe has
>much to offer to Australia. The Euro satellite probably wouldn't be able
>to *see* Australia, let alone whether there would somehow be spare
>capacity for coverage here.
You're right, that satellite wouldn't. I didn't say a Northern
Hemisphere satellite or spare capacity on one would be used. Perhaps
I wasn't clear enough. With discussion of a new satellite for our
remote data services, we shouldn't invest in a space program to put
one up (something I got a whiff of in a story somewhere this week),
but we should be looking at satellite providers who build and launch
broadband services satellites as is being done in Europe. It's not
just a matter of the end user access, but also the point of entry
into the ground based network.
I do understand the coverage differences in satellites. I used to
manage a campus satellite access service in the US. Heck, I've even
rented remote uplink vans and produced remote TV programs distributed
via satellite.
BTW, on Insiders this morning, Andrew Bolt mentioned that Hong Kong
is putting up a broadband delivery satellite, and argued we should be
doing that instead of fibre!. So the concept is out there.
Jan
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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