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Karl Auer kauer at biplane.com.au
Mon Oct 4 21:08:14 AEDT 2010


On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 18:24 +1100, Richard Chirgwin wrote:
> > What was attacked here by News Limited was the man's privacy.
> Is it that simple? Publication takes place in public; is there an 
> absolute right to privacy once someone has decided to do something in 
> public?

I said nothing about absolute rights to privacy. I said his privacy was
attacked.

> in that context, there's a paradoxical benefit to flow from 
> the "outing". The author hasn't been sacked; there is a tiny opening of 
> a window of precedent. That's a good thing.

What *are* you talking about? Because some good came of it, it excuses
the original unconscionable act?

> Two out of four. I think the breach of ethics - at least, the formal 
> ethics of the trade - is not certain.

No? I am quite certain. The guy was outed for not good reason at all. If
you think differently, explain to me how the reasons given actually fit
the case.

> Well, I'd refer also to the code of ethics. But sorry, if someone said 
> "I don't like what I say are the motives for Journalist X writing Story 
> Y", that's a chaos. Who's interpretations of nice motives apply?

Again - what *are* you talking about? The journalist (I use the term
loosely) gave his reasons. I have considered them and find them utterly
inadequate and hypocritical. I don't have to invent motives, I am
referring to the ones the "journalist" actually gave. They included a
laughable "public interest" motive.

> >> I'm also a little offended
> > It's not against the law to say that! How can you be offended by
> > something that is not against the law?
> Easily, Karl. The offence is personal;

The question was rhetorical. Rhetoric is something that journalists use
a lot; it's been around since the ancient Greeks. So have ethics, but
they don't seem to get used as much...

Regards, K.

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