[LINK] O/t responsible consumers

Kim Holburn kim at holburn.net
Sun Sep 5 23:02:46 EST 2010

On 2010/Sep/05, at 10:22 PM, Karl Auer wrote:

> On Sun, 2010-09-05 at 21:04 +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
>> this can't be just explained away as the result of idiocy or  
>> ignorance
>> or even the profit motive (it's easily possible to be just as  
>> profitable
>> without making cars so insanely wasteful and inefficient).
> Those are mighty big claims you're making. I assure you that if it  
> were
> possible to as easily be profitable without such insanity, they  
> would be
> doing it.

Actually I believe the big US carmakers are not actually profitable.   
That's why they recently had to be bailed out by the US govt.  They  
were broke.  Other carmakers are profitable and the more profitable  
ones make smaller cars.  The more profitable carmakers that sell in  
the US market make smaller cars not made by the big US carmakers.

Sorry but without that "profitable" argument the rest of your argument  
doesn't stand.

> Actually, they'd probably do BOTH. But it's not the cost of
> doing it, it's the cost of changing over.

They are already doing that.  Didn't I read recently that Hummers had  
been discontinued?

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