[LINK] 'Cloud Computing doesn't fly'
grove at zeta.org.au
Wed Sep 29 21:43:21 EST 2010
On 29/09/2010, at 7:38 PM, Fernando Cassia <fcassia at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:02 AM, Adrian Chadd <adrian at creative.net.au> wrote:
>> Only if your focus is Java. To some of us, Sun did a lot more than
>> just Java. :) Eg open ZFS development; open Solaris development in
> That´s just one: OpenSolaris and its ZFS.
> That´s the only camp that has an axe to grind against Oracle. I was in
> the Virtualbox Mailing List earlier this year and FUD was rampant with
> people coming to the list saying "Is Oracle going to kill Virtualbox,
> should we move to (x,y,z)?".
> Sheesh, it didn´t happen, and Virtualbox has an Open Source edition
> that is GPL after all.
> I´m not naive nor stupid, and I do know that competitors use FUD as a
> business tactic.
I have had to fight similar FUD at work, where we are being told we are moving to Linux
because Oracle is not committed to Solaris. So before the managers jumped down the rabbit
hole and forced unwanted and unwarranted change on us, I basically had to beg
that they just be patient for a bit. It does not help when apps like Callista are being pushed onto linux over Solaris, because I know the admin overheads are multiples of what we have to do on Solaris. Likewise we use Sun IDM, which people insisted would die to be replaced by Oracle's IDM, which, (wait for it) is the same product, rebranded. There is so much FUD surrounding Oracle's acquisition of Sun, it has been disappointing because Sun just makes such great products..... pity about their marketing....
> See these articles:
> DOOMSDAY PREDICTION: "Oracle might kill OpenOffice"
> "Oracle may well kill OpenOffice and MySQL"
> Result: Killing of OpenOffice never happened, Oracle sponsored the
> OpenOffice.org conference in Budapest earlier this year
> Would they do that if they intented to kill the product?. Are they stupid?
> The fact that Ellison wants to see BOTH a JavaFX-based mobile and
> cloud version of the office suite, in addition to the traditional
> "fat" disk-based suite does not translate into the killing of the
> other, just in Oracle expanding its offerings to include every market
> "I think this announcement refutes the unfounded concerns of those who
> though that the buyout of Sun would mean doomsday for Java or
> OpenOffice. Oracle has an interest in non-Microsoft technologies being
> promoted. Microsoft’s biggest selling point is being able to sell
> corporations the entire package of software from the desktop to the
> data center. Microsoft Office runs on Windows and is optimized for
> accessing data in SQL Server. To the extent that Oracle can introduce
> technologies that make it easy to access MySQL and Oracle, that’s a
> plus point for Oracle. That’s why Oracle will keep OpenOffice alive."
> 2nd DOOMSDAY PREDICTION:
> Oct 2009 - "some fear that Oracle will bury or weaken MySQL"
> Didn´t happen. Oracle is INVESTING in MySQL
> April 2010: Oracle boosts investment in MySQL, targets Microsoft
> And then you see who is behind the criticism... Ingres....
> Ingres criticises Oracle investment strategy for MySQL
> Yeah another database vendor criticising Oracle, a competitor, for
> "not investing enough"
> It makes my head spin...
> So I say "Enough with the FUD" already!, I´m sick and tired of hearing
> people talk abonut how AFRAID they are that Big Bad Oracle is going to
> do something to them while they´re sleeping. Facts and Actiond do not
> back up such irrational fears.
> Just my $0.02
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