[LINK] Usage Based Billing

[Richard Chirgwin]

On 1/04/11 8:29 AM, Kim Holburn wrote:
> On 2011/Apr/01, at 7:02 AM, Richard Chirgwin wrote:
>
>> On 31/03/11 8:53 PM, Tom Koltai wrote:
>>> This is an interesting topic.
>>>
>>> With the addition of PPC-1 last year Australia now has, (if 8 million
>>> homes all active simultaneously),
>>> P/HH* 210 kbps sustained download capacity.
>>>
>>> With the Unity cable now terminated, that takes the total to over
>>> 1,355.11 kbps. (err that's YouTube in full HD for 70% of the country...
>>> Or the ABC delivered at 720P to every Australian.
>>> LEGEND..........ary!)
>>>
>>> There is no longer any valid technical reason why Australia should have
>>> enforced monthly Caps.
>> 1) There is capacity on those cables, but the ISP still has to buy that
>> capacity on a per-Mbps basis. And Australia remains more expensive
>> per-Mbps than other places.
>>
>> 2) Whether they buy it in Australia or the US, the Australian ISP has to
>> add the cost of Internet transit. So: when Internode (which buys its own
>> direct capacity on submarine cables) gets to a landing point in America,
>> it then needs to pay per-GB costs for downloads.
>>
>> Not technical reasons, perhaps, but definitely economic reasons.
> I keep hearing that but why does Australia have to pay for US bytes when no other country does?  We might have to pay more for the underwater fibre but that surely is a fixed cost and other countries on the pacific would have to pay that to.
All ISPs have to make some kind of transit arrangement, wherever they 
are. The issue, as I understand it, is scale: if you're big enough to 
force peering with a large backbone provider, you pay for the difference 
between traffic up and down. We're not big enough, so we have to buy 
transit at a disadvantageous rate.

RC
>
>> RC
>>> I think it's about time we let our politicians know about this "glitch"
>>> in the design of the NBN.
>>> Especially if the NBN will be delivering retail product to some
>>> Australian customers. (yeah yeah - rural only.... ).
>>>
>>> So now there are only three questions.
>>>
>>> Which Company offered home users 1Gb per sec speeds? [1]
>>> Who owns Unity AND;
>>> How are they going to deliver it? A couple of choices would be:
>>>
>>> Last mile Spectrum... (see ref [1] for the para about Google paying 4
>>> Bill for Wireless spectrum in the Us just to break the wireless
>>> monopoly)
>>>
>>> That copper is starting to look mighty important...
>>>
>>> And speaking of trial communities... Since Maralinga, hasn't Australia
>>> pretty much been the trial community for most of these things ?
>>>
>>> However in this case:
>>> Quote/
>>> [From:http://www.telegeography.com/cu/article.php?article_id=36639&email
>>> =html]
>>>
>>> Kansas City beats off 1,100 cities to host new 'Google Fiber' network
>>>
>>> Kansas City has been declared the winner of Google's 'Google Fiber'
>>> contest, and the internet giant will now roll out a trial fibre-optic
>>> network in the city, offering transmission speeds of up to 100Mbps.
>>> Google first announced the project over a year ago, and received
>>> applications from almost 1,100 cities that were interested in hosting
>>> the network. Google's vice president of Access Services, Milo Medin,
>>> wrote on Google's official blog: 'In selecting a city, our goal was to
>>> find a location where we could build efficiently, make an impact on the
>>> community and develop relationships with local government and community
>>> organizations. We've found this in Kansas City. We'll be working closely
>>> with local organisations including the Kauffman Foundation, KCNext and
>>> the University of Kansas Medical Centre to help develop the gigabit
>>> applications of the future. Pending approval from the city's Board of
>>> Commissioners, we plan to offer service beginning in 2012. We will also
>>> be looking closely at ways to bring ultra high-speed internet to other
>>> cities across the country'.
>>> /Quote
>>>
>>> And of course, once we are all getting P2P delivered content to all of
>>> our devices for free what will happen to Telstra, Optus and all that
>>> useless broadcast spectrum.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/11/technology/companies/11google.html?_r=
>>> 1&ref=business
>>>
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