[LINK] Broadband for a Broad Land

Tom Koltai tomk at unwired.com.au
Mon Jan 3 16:27:37 AEDT 2011


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Howard [mailto:scott at doc.net.au] 
Sent: Monday, 3 January 2011 3:52 PM
To: Tom Koltai
Cc: link at mailman.anu.edu.au
Subject: Re: [LINK] Broadband for a Broad Land

<SNIP>

>Perhaps you'd like to legitimize your comments by naming even a single
ISP that is 
>using these "older style routers" of which you speak?

>  Scott.


Actually Scott, you are correct. I hadnt noticed, things do appear to
have speeded up in the last couple of years.
Obviously PPC-1 has forced certain ISP's to dismantle legacy FDDI rings
from the '90's.

Then again, some haven't.
...


Tracing route to www.l.google.com [66.102.11.104]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  10.0.34.1
  2     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  192.168.2.1 
  3     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  4    19 ms    21 ms    17 ms  cor-syd-1.ozonline.com.au
[203.23.155.252] 
  5    19 ms    19 ms    20 ms  fibre-syd.ozonline.com.au
[203.23.155.254] 
  6    78 ms    53 ms    19 ms  Gi11-3-442.gw2.syd1.asianetcom.net
[203.192.130.125] 
  7    48 ms   152 ms    95 ms  gi0-1-3.cr3.syd1.asianetcom.net
[202.147.40.217] 
  8   115 ms    19 ms    19 ms  gi3-1-0.gw1.syd2.asianetcom.net
[202.147.40.98] 
  9    41 ms    19 ms    19 ms  202.167.228.73 
 10    19 ms    19 ms    47 ms  66.249.95.232 
 11    21 ms    21 ms    32 ms  64.233.174.242 
 12    19 ms    20 ms    19 ms  syd01s01-in-f104.1e100.net
[66.102.11.104] 

And a traceroute from last July:

Tracing route to 212.63.206.35 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  10.0.254.1
  2     *        1 ms     1 ms  192.168.2.1
  3     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  4   144 ms    53 ms    47 ms  cor-syd-1.ozonline.com.au
[203.23.155.252]
  5   300 ms   267 ms    39 ms  fibre-syd.ozonline.com.au
[203.23.155.254]
  6    78 ms    21 ms    19 ms  Gi11-3-442.gw2.syd1.asianetcom.net
[203.192.130.125]
  7    20 ms    19 ms    19 ms  gi0-1-0.cr3.syd1.asianetcom.net
[202.147.40.205]
  8   176 ms   215 ms   339 ms  po2-0-2.gw3.lax1.asianetcom.net
[202.147.61.145]
  9  1186 ms  1185 ms   710 ms  ge2-15.losangeles1.loa.seabone.net
[89.221.35.161]
 10   192 ms   298 ms   253 ms  xe-5-1-0.paloalto2.pao.seabone.net
[89.221.35.147]
 11   256 ms   269 ms   321 ms  xe-5-1-0.chicago2.chi.seabone.net
[195.22.222.172]
 12   552 ms   492 ms   623 ms  te0-1-0-5.newyork50.new.seabone.net
[195.22.222.169]
 13   596 ms     *      573 ms  pos0-7-0-0.londra17.lon.seabone.net
[195.22.209.214]
 14   403 ms   740 ms   481 ms  xe-8-0-0.amster32.ams.seabone.net
[195.22.209.223]
 15     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 16   544 ms   478 ms   597 ms  cbv-core-1.pos15-0-0.swip.net
[130.244.205.145]
 17   628 ms   489 ms   756 ms  cbv-core-3.tengige0-0-0-2.swip.net
[130.244.39.161]
 18   457 ms   356 ms   384 ms  fra2-core-1.pos12-0-0.swip.net
[130.244.53.65]
 19   400 ms   417 ms   405 ms  fra50-core-1.tengige0-0-0-5.swip.net
[130.244.49.73]
 20   404 ms   472 ms   473 ms  lim-core-1.pos11-0-0.swip.net
[130.244.205.5]
 21   479 ms   481 ms   403 ms  avk-core-1.pos1-0-0.swip.net
[130.244.39.145]
 22   384 ms   412 ms   408 ms  kst-ncore-2.tengigabiteth4-1.swip.net
[130.244.218.186]
 23   543 ms   599 ms   404 ms  130.244.13.54
 24   506 ms   371 ms   393 ms  sth-cty1-cri-1-ge-2-0.dcs.net
[193.23.57.10]
 25   511 ms   671 ms   407 ms  193.23.57.22
 26   374 ms   497 ms   359 ms  212.63.198.1
 27   561 ms   386 ms   392 ms  212.63.205.145
 28   507 ms     *      393 ms  212.63.206.35

But then again, I use Unwired a lot...

Tracing route to 202.3.54.54 over a maximum of 30 hops

  1  1101 ms   829 ms  1019 ms  r220-101-48-1.gwy.unwired.net.au
[220.101.48.1] 
  2  2238 ms   969 ms  2089 ms  v1678-cr1.equ.syd.bbn.unwired.net.au
[220.101.190.161] 
  3  1254 ms  1179 ms   969 ms  ge-2-1.br1.equ.syd.bbn.unwired.net.au
[220.101.190.202] 
  4   798 ms   329 ms   109 ms  AS9443.sydney.pipenetworks.com
[218.100.2.44] 
  5  2801 ms  1759 ms     *     ge-0-3-0-62.br01.equ.iprimus.net.au
[203.134.2.189] 
  6  1078 ms  1439 ms   569 ms  ge-0-3.ic03.mel.iprimus.net.au
[203.134.2.253] 
  7  2695 ms  3379 ms  1520 ms  210.50.233.194 
  8  2419 ms   819 ms   749 ms  ge5-1.sw02.mel.idc.iprimus.net.au
[210.50.0.22] 
  9   887 ms  1660 ms  1529 ms
vlan10.nsrp.fw01-02.mel.idc.iprimus.net.au [210.50.2.22] 
 10  1519 ms  1669 ms  1519 ms  202.3.54.54 

Tracing route to a213-22-95-190.cpe.netcabo.pt [213.22.95.190]

over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1  2956 ms  1499 ms  1339 ms  r220-101-48-1.gwy.unwired.net.au
[220.101.48.1] 
  2  3108 ms  2960 ms  3018 ms  v1678-cr2.equ.syd.bbn.unwired.net.au
[220.101.190.162] 
  3  1087 ms  1829 ms   909 ms  ge-2-2.br2.equ.syd.bbn.unwired.net.au
[220.101.190.206] 
  4  2320 ms  2777 ms  1539 ms  203.94.172.37 
  5  2648 ms  1609 ms  1209 ms  3811.Gi0.br1.mil100-ar1.cla55
[218.185.63.46] 
  6  1240 ms  1799 ms  2113 ms  VLAN376.o2occ76f01.optus.net.au
[203.202.87.1] 
  7  3060 ms  2819 ms  1380 ms  203.208.145.82 
  8   388 ms   448 ms   300 ms
if-0-0-0-77.mcore4.LAA-LosAngeles.as6453.net [216.6.85.45] 
  9  1129 ms   659 ms   349 ms  if-1-0.mcore3.LAA-LosAngeles.as6453.net
[216.6.85.2] 
 10   769 ms   389 ms   870 ms  if-4-0.mcore3.NJY-Newark.as6453.net
[216.6.84.2] 
 11  1260 ms  1138 ms  1979 ms  Vlan1100.icore1.NJY-Newark.as6453.net
[216.6.57.2] 
 12  2269 ms  2541 ms   947 ms  195.219.185.5 
 13  1966 ms  3141 ms  3401 ms  195.219.185.30 
 14     *     1810 ms   869 ms  a212-113-160-173.netcabo.pt
[212.113.160.173] 
 15  1408 ms  1752 ms  1969 ms  a212-113-160-174.netcabo.pt
[212.113.160.174] 
 

Which is probably why I hadn't noticed the latency decrease.




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