[LINK] Climate Change, The other point of View

Tue Jun 21 13:17:11 AEST 2011

Richard Chirgwin wrote:
> Moreover, in CSIRO's briefing to the Australian Science Media Centre 
> yesterday, Dr Paul Fraser pointed out that people taking the CO2 
> observations can distinguish volcanic CO2 from fossil fuel CO2. The two 
> have different isotopes.
> 

I caught the story about CSIRO releasing their CO2 data, on the wireless, 
yesterday and had been meaning to check it out - so here it is:

> For the first time, greenhouse gas data are accessed easily on a new CSIRO website. The site shows the levels of greenhouse gases measured in the Southern Hemisphere atmosphere for the past 35 years.
...
> Dr Fraser says carbon dioxide is currently rising at nearly 2 parts per million molar (ppm) per year.
> 
> "Together, these measurements allow us to trace the dramatic rise in carbon dioxide levels from about 280 ppm before the start of the industrial era around the year 1800, to 388 ppm in 2010. That's an increase of almost 40 per cent, largely due to human activities."
> 
> Australian Science Media Centre online briefing: 10.30 am AEST at: http://www.aussmc.org/2011/06/media-alert-public-scrutiny-of-climate-science-%E2%80%93-new-csiro-website-open-to-all/
<http://www.csiro.au/news/Record-greenhouse-gas-levels.html>

On the topic of Open data, a couple of years ago (according to my webpage 
in November 2009) I used the RTA data to estimate motor vehicle emissions 
for traffic passing through Annandale (NSW) and wondered what the data from 
air quality monitors would reveal - using isotopes to identify the source 
of CO2 emissions is probably something I should add to my:

Carbon Footprint of Daily Traffic through Annandale
<http://ramin.com.au/annandale/carbon-footprint-traffic.shtml>

Marghanita

> RC
> 
> On 21/06/11 12:20 PM, Greg Taylor wrote:
>> Balanced and fair reporting??
>>
>> This is nothing more than a hoax email, full of false information and unscientific claptrap.
>>
>> Unworthy of Link, and unworthy of you, Tom. Shame on you.
>>
>> Some factual reading material for you:
>>
>> Two attempts to blame global warming on volcanoes
>> http://www.skepticalscience.com/Two-attempts-to-blame-global-warming-on-volcanoes.html
>>
>> Volcanic Contributions to the Global Carbon Cycle - British Geological Survey (Natural Environment Research Council)
>> (PDF document)
>> http://www.bgs.ac.uk/downloads/start.cfm?id=432
>> "The contribution to the present day atmospheric CO2 loading from volcanic emissions is relatively insignificant ...
>> equivalent to just 1% of anthropogenic emissions."
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>> On 2011/06/21 11:15 AM, Tom Koltai wrote:
>>> Dear Linkers,
>>> I received this in an email this morning. It is replicated here to
>>> ensure balanced and fair reporting. (see comments at end)
>>>
>>> Quote/
>>> Professor Ian Plimer (a member of the School of Earth and Environmental
>>> Sciences<http://www.ees.adelaide.edu.au/>    at the University of
>>> Adelaide. He is also a joint member of the School of Civil,
>>> Environmental and Mining Engineering<http://www.ecms..adelaide.edu.au/>
>>> ) could not have said it better!
>>> If you've read his book you will agree, this is a good summary.
>>> Okay, here's the bombshell. The volcanic eruption in Iceland, since its
>>> first spewing of volcanic ash has, in just FOUR DAYS, NEGATED EVERY
>>> SINGLE EFFORT you have made in the past five years to control CO2
>>> emissions on our planet, all of you.
>>> Of course you know about this evil carbon dioxide that we are trying to
>>> suppress, that vital chemical compound that every plant requires to live
>>> and grow, and to synthesize into oxygen for us humans, and all animal
>>> life.
>>> I know, it's very disheartening to realize that all of the carbon
>>> emission savings you have accomplished while suffering the inconvenience
>>> and expense of: driving Prius hybrids, buying fabric grocery bags,
>>> sitting up till midnight to finish your kid's "The Green Revolution"
>>> science project, throwing out all of your non-green cleaning supplies,
>>> using only two squares of toilet paper, putting a brick in your toilet
>>> tank reservoir, selling your SUV and speedboat, vacationing at home
>>> instead of abroad, nearly getting hit every day on your bicycle,
>>> replacing all of your 50 cents light bulbs with $10.00 light
>>> bulbs...well, all of those things you have done have all gone down the
>>> tubes in just four days.
>>> The volcanic ash emitted into the Earth's atmosphere in just four days -
>>> yes - FOUR DAYS ONLY by that volcano in Iceland, has totally erased
>>> every single effort you have made to reduce the evil beast, carbon. And
>>> there are around 200 active volcanoes on the planet spewing out this
>>> crud any one time - EVERY DAY.
>>> I don't really want to rain on your parade too much, but I should
>>> mention that when the volcano Mt Pinatubo erupted in the Philippines in
>>> 1991, it spewed out more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than the
>>> entire human race had emitted in its entire YEARS on earth. Yes folks,
>>> Mt Pinatubo was active for over one year, think about it.
>>> Of course I shouldn't spoil this touchy-feely tree-hugging moment and
>>> mention the effect of solar and cosmic activity and the well-recognized
>>> 800-year global heating and cooling cycle, which keep happening, despite
>>> our completely insignificant efforts to affect climate change.
>>> And I do wish I had a silver lining to this volcanic ash cloud but the
>>> fact of the matter is that the bush fire season across the western USA
>>> and Australia this year alone will negate your efforts to reduce carbon
>>> in our world for the next two to three years. And it happens every year.
>>> Just remember that your government just tried to impose a whopping
>>> carbon tax on you on the basis of the bogus ''human-caused'' climate
>>> change scenario.
>>> Hey, isn't it interesting how they don't mention ''Global Warming'' any
>>> more, but just ''Climate Change'' - you know why? It's because the
>>> planet has COOLED by 0.7 degrees in the past century and these global
>>> warming bull artists got caught with their pants down.
>>> And just keep in mind that you might yet have an Emissions Trading
>>> Scheme (that whopping new tax) imposed on you, that will achieve
>>> absolutely nothing except make you poorer. It won't stop any volcanoes
>>> from erupting, that's for sure.
>>> But hey, relax, give the world a hug and have a nice day!
>>> PS: I wonder if Iceland is buying carbon offsets?
>>> /Quote
>>>
>>> Of course whilst his simplified analysis is patently accurate, the
>>> author doesn't concern himself with rampant on-going pulmonary disease
>>> issues (caused by cumulative effects, not one offs like a volcano
>>> eruption) nor does he concern himself with the reality that economic
>>> infrastructure, whether it be a $10.00 lightbulb or a massive solar
>>> panel/wind farm rollout is necessary for the ongoing relationship
>>> between Government and her citizens.
>>>
>>> Let's face it, money talks.
>>> Our traditional potential nuclear winter cohorts;
>>> the evil Russian Empire and the Sino Empire are now our commercial
>>> confederates.
>>> Therefore the Arms race concept needs replacing with some other equally
>>> demanding financial imperative. If we remove war amongst the planets
>>> inhabitants as an economic enhancer, we are left with either UFO's or
>>> climate change as the potential arch enemy to facilitate a methodology
>>> of economic progress measurement.
>>> I don't know about you guys, but just in case UFO's turn out to be real,
>>> I'm kinda leaning towards the climate as being the bad boy that all we
>>> need to rally to fight against.
>>> The only victim, a few carbon atoms.
>>>
>>> Err, Koltai, aren't we made of Carbon ?
>>> That's okay, in the future you will be able to buy some offsets to fix
>>> that problem...
>>>
>>> TomK
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