[LINK] Consciousness, and the real world

stephen at melbpc.org.au stephen at melbpc.org.au
Sat Nov 12 15:47:41 AEDT 2011

The quantum-mind approach, "in looking for consciousness, we might be 
better to work upwards from the real basis of the physical world .."


A good read: http://www.quantum-mind.co.uk/introduction-1-c32.html


In trying to discover the physical basis of consciousness, it may first 
be helpful to consider the physical structure of the universe from which 
consciousness somehow arises. 

Everything that we see, or otherwise perceive, is comprised of quanta 
that are best described as energy waves oscillating as excitations or 
disturbances of the quantum vacuum. 

In terms of modern physics nothing else exists, there are no things, 
there is no colour green, although it is not usually put quite as bluntly 
as that, perhaps for fear of frightening the horses.

In the view of some physicists, it is the vacuum that is fundamental 
rather than the quanta. These waves of energy are seen as excitations of 
the more fundamental vacuum. 

The quantum vacuum is not a void or nothingness, but could better be 
described as a plenum, as being full of virtual particles or photons that 
leap in and out of existence, and whose existence can be made permanent 
by the presence of energy, such as the energy of an extreme gravitational 
field or equivalent acceleration.

The quantum vacuum permeates the whole universe, and in that respect can 
be identified with the spacetime of special and general relativity. 

The speed of the light quanta or photons is fundamental in special 
relativity, and this relates to the proposition that there is no fixed 
background frame of spatial or temporal reference for the quanta and 
their interactions, but that each point or event has its own frame of 

Further, spacetime, or the vacuum, are curved by the presence of massive 
objects, and the energy of their gravitational curvature, if sufficiently 
great, can produce the same hot particles that we see from our 
accelerating spaceship, gravity and acceleration being equivalent in 

This again points to the physical reality of the quantum vacuum.

Unfortunately the two main theories of modern physics, quantum theory and 
relativity, although individually tested to a very high degree of 
accuracy, are incompatible with one another. 

This reflects the essential conflict between quantum theory, which sees 
energy as discrete units, and the smooth continuous curvature of 
spacetime in general relativity. 

Physicists have tended towards the view that spacetime like energy will 
have to be viewed not as a continuum, but as forming some kind of web or 
network. The significant thing is that once we move away from the concept 
of a continuum towards something more discrete, the possibility that the 
network itself contains pattern or information emerges, and with it the 
possibility that this information could be related to consciousness.

This all seems very far from the world that we see around us containing 
land, water, buildings, motor cars, people and animals. Strictly 
speaking, these do not exist as brain states. All that physics shows to 
exist are the quanta as disturbances of the vacuum. To take the example 
of vision, photons (light quanta) reach the retina and are converted into 
electrical and chemical signals in the brain. Neuroscience traditionally 
describes this process as a representation of the external world. In fact 
this term rather exaggerates the likeness between brain state and the 
external world, and it might be more helpful to talk about mapping.

If we think of a very abstract map, such as the map of an urban metro or 
underground railway system, we might get the right analogy. The two-
dimensional coloured lines on a piece of paper have no resemblance to 
cavernous concrete tunnels, steel rails or metal coaches. However, in 
evolutionary terms, the map is adaptive once we understand the 
correlation between lines on paper and a system that can take us to 
preferred destinations. Likewise, a brain state  based on signals from 
the external world has no resemblance to energy waves oscillating in the 
vacuum, but the correlation between the two may be advantageous to the 
survival of an organism.

Where is all this leading in terms of consciousness? It is really to 
suggest that approaches that start from the old Newtonian physics 
assumptions of massive objects in the external world bumping into one 
another, or even of neurons as massive objects projecting chemical at one 
another, may mislead. Certainly, theories that have proceeded from this 
basis have failed to produce a satisfying explanatory consensus. This 
lack of success at least suggests that *in looking for consciousness, we 
might be better to work upwards from the real basis of the physical world*


The site provides summaries and reviews of books, academic papers, 
articles and other material relevant to theories of consciousness related 
to fundamental physics. 

One section deals with evidence related to quantum consciousness ideas. 
An area of recent interest has been a spate of papers relating to quantum 
coherence in photosynthetic proteins (Engel et al, 2007, Lee et al 2007, 
Sarovar et al, 2009, Collini et al, 2009). The most recent and possibly 
the most important paper is Collini et al, 2010, which demonstrates long-
lived quantum coherence in proteins at room temperature, something which 
had previously been considered impossible. The work of Engels and Collini 
mentioned above tends to bring the significance of proteins centre stage. 
Proteins whether in microtubules or elsewhere in the neuron that emerges 
as a quantum engine even in conventional theory, and is also the most 
likely mechanism for any form of quantum consciousness/computing in the 
brain ...

More: http://www.quantum-mind.co.uk/introduction-1-c32.html

Also: www.newscientist.com/article/mg21128285.900-quantum-minds-why-we-


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