[LINK] Propaganda, manipulation and the abuse of media [Was: IPA, astroturfing and fantsy themes/Science under attack]

TKoltai tomk at unwired.com.au
Tue Feb 21 19:57:56 AEDT 2012

> P.S. : They don't have Internet or Wireless phones in 
> socialist Amish style non-mechanised farming co-operatives.
> 'Socialist' Amish? You think about twenty minutes after 
> you've typed ... right?
> P.P.S. : Luddites traditionally go for the man in an attempt 
> to use ridicule to discount their opponents pearls of wisdom.
> Luddites are people who stand in the way of progress, who 
> can't see any way of doing things other than the way it's 
> been done in the past. They act to secure their position and 
> protect it from any encroachments by more efficient, 
> effective and viable technological alternatives.
> Who's the Luddite here, Tom?

Context      Synonyms within Context From: http://www.websters-dictionary-online.org/definitions/Luddites
Party       Luddites, Confederates, Conservatives, Democrats, Federalists, Federals, Freemason, KKK, Knight Templar, Kuklux, Kuklux Klan, Liberals, Republicans, Socialists, Tories, Whigs.

That is the question isn't it. To be a luddite or not to be a luddite.


noun /ˈlədˌīt/ 
Luddites, plural

   1. A member of any of the bands of English workers who destroyed machinery, esp. in cotton and woolen mills, that they believed was threatening their jobs (1811–16)

   2. A person opposed to increased industrialization or new technology
          * - a small-minded Luddite resisting progress

As to my position on the topic... I'm not actually sure Frank, I can only repeat my earlier comment on my knowledge level about Global Warming/Cooling or the hot topic of the day:

> I have no Fricking clue. I am merely a Zombie repeating what I have read in an attempted 
> condensed and hopefully interesting manner.

But thanks for the excellent data on the different ages. Each one of which culminated in total melt down for all life on planet earth. Oh, you forgot to mention what the extinction level event was for all those different ages.

In closing, if I could comment on your following statement: 

> ... under some circumstances vulcanism will cool an environment, in others it 
> will dramatically increase solar energy absorption and have a heating effect.

With a link... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/dimming_qa.shtml (An excellent documentary with extensive references to Australian Climatologists research.)

And... One last item.

> (amongst other vehicles I have an electric assisted 
> bike which gives me 60 km on a single 
> battery charge, and is as easy as pie to ride around), 

How much Carbon was created in the mining of minerals and materials and the casting and then  the manufacturing of the said electrically assisted bicycle.

I think you'll find the amount was substantially greater, than the methane output of a single horse for it's entire life-span.

On that topic, if the average human expels methane gas 14 times a day (at 89.25 cu cm per "occurrence"), based on a world population of 7 billion that is 8,746,500,000,000 cubic centimetres of methane. (Approx. 35 Megawatts of power...)

Goodness gracious me... Planet Earth can't afford to support all these farters... Quick off with their heads. 

Or, stop them eating Potatoes.....

Quote/ [From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatulence]
Certain spices have been reported to counteract the production of intestinal gas, most notably the closely related cumin, coriander, caraway and others such as ajwain, turmeric, asafoetida (hing), epazote, and kombu kelp (a Japanese seaweed). Most starches, including potatoes, corn, noodles, and wheat, produce gas as they are broken down in the large intestine. Rice is the only starch that does not cause gas

There's ecologically responsible, there's ecologically irresponsible, and then there's ecologically naïve. Which one are you Frank ?

Get a horse Frank. That bicycle is far too high and the planet can’t afford you to have one., or if you do have one, stop being a hypocrite.
Stand by your beliefs... Stop polluting the planet. Become a Luddite today !!!!



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