[LINK] Weekend Magazine - Remote Siberian Lake Holds Clues to Arctic--and Antarctic--Climate Change

TKoltai tomk at unwired.com.au
Fri Jun 22 22:31:16 AEST 2012



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> [mailto:link-bounces at mailman.anu.edu.au] On Behalf Of Richard Archer
> Sent: Friday, 22 June 2012 9:49 PM
> To: link at mailman.anu.edu.au
> Subject: Re: [LINK] Weekend Magazine - Remote Siberian Lake 
> Holds Clues to Arctic--and Antarctic--Climate Change
> 
> 
> On 22/06/12 9:25 PM, TKoltai wrote:
> > The National Science Foundation fund various "beneficial" Research 
> > projects, like the Internet and Climate Change. So when the NSF 
> > discover data indicating severe temperatures in past 
> "earths" we have 
> > a choice.
> 
> 
> I'm not aware than anyone is disputing that the Earth has 
> been warmer in 
> the past, and there are climate cycles.
> 
> Likewise, it is indisputable that human activity is causing 
> the Earth to 
> warm now, in between cycles.
> 
> The only questions on any significance are:
> 
> 1. Are we willing to trigger an extinction-level event just 
> so we in the 
> first world can live our lives in luxury?
> 
> 2. Can we do anything to prevent this degree of climate change?
> 
> My take is that the answers are No and No.
> 
> We need to yank on the Emergency Brake and work out where 
> we're heading 
> before we plunge off the cliff!
> 
> ...R.

Actually Richard,

And I Quote:
Simulations using a state-of-the-art climate model show that the high
temperature and precipitation during the super interglacials can't be
explained by Earth's orbital parameters or variations in atmospheric
greenhouse gases alone, which geologists usually see as driving the
glacial/interglacial pattern during ice ages.

That suggests that additional climate feedbacks are at work.
/Quote
There is no emergency Brake and even if legislation could make one...
(highly doubtful) the best scientists in the world  that grant money can
buy say it's not Greenhouse gases.

I don't think it can be clearer than that (unless we up the anti and
increase the grants substantially).

I personally like the (C) option... We should send a bill for sixteen
trillion dollars worth of NGACS to M45, otherwise referred to as
Pleiades. 

TomK




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