[LINK] An Overhead NBN

Michael Skeggs mike@bystander.net mskeggs at gmail.com
Fri Nov 8 16:23:42 AEDT 2013


Austel certified cablers do cabling.
Electricians, Austel cablers and High Voltage linesmen are three different
beasts, although I am sure there are overlaps.
Regards,
Michael Skeggs


On 8 November 2013 16:07, Marghanita da Cruz <marghanita at ramin.com.au>wrote:

> Electricians do cabling, it isn't just up poles that getting your wires
> crossed would be a problem...
>
> Way back, when the Post Master General owned the Poles, and the City
> council connected the electrical cables to it:
> > May 1911
> > I have to inform you that it has been reported that on the 23rd instant
> the current was turned on o your council's lines recently erected in
> Annandale, which resulted in one of the pertersham lines being burnt out,
> owing to the mains being run under one of this Depatment's leads, and being
> raised, coming into contact with the lead. So far as can be seen not one
> place in Annanndale has been guarded, although it is understood your
> council proposes to light up from the 1st proximo. The Engineer in Charge
> of Lines states that Mr Vine Hall repeatedly informed him that it is
> proposed to guard to the satisfaction of this department. Up to the
> present, however, nothing has been done. I desire to draw your attention to
> the serious position wich will exist if current is turned on before the
> necessary guarding is carried out, as promised by your officers, and to
> request that he matter be treated as specially urgent.
> > yours faithfully,
> > signed
> > Deputy Postmaster-General
> > [stamped very urgent to be acknowledged city electrical engineer for
> report]
> <http://ramin.com.au/annandale/story4-electricity.shtml>
>
> Nick Ross wrote:
> > When I spoke to the contractors last year they were saying it's a bit
> more
> > tricky than it sounds. You need specially-trained (and therefore more
> > expensive) workers to operate in those places (because of the live power)
> > and all lines must be a minimum distance (a metre I think) below the
> power
> > lines.
> >
> > N
> >
> >
> > On 8 November 2013 00:16, Frank O'Connor <francisoconnor3 at bigpond.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Mmmm,
> >>
> >> You'd think that using the poles rather than the ducts would be cheaper,
> >> quicker and much less labour intensive, and as a bonus easier to
> diagnose
> >> and repair when/if trouble hits. That said, leaving the cable/fibre
> open to
> >> the elements may make it a bit less reliable.
> >>
> >> Jan, as probably the only person on the Link List who has actually
> spliced
> >> fibre and participated in running an optic fibre network ... what are
> your
> >> thoughts?
> >> ---
> >> On 7 Nov 2013, at 11:53 pm, stephen at melbpc.org.au wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Overall wouldn't powerpole NBN FTTH optical be cheaper than FTTN
> >> systems?
> >>> The Electrical Trade Union NBN construction co-ordinator David Mier
> said:
> >>>
> >>> "Utilising the existing electricity poles and wires - which already run
> >>> down most streets in the country - would slash construction costs,
> >> allowing
> >>> a world-class, high-speed fibre-to-the-home broadband network to be
> >>> delivered cheaper and quicker than the model Mr Turnbull took to the
> >>> Federal Election."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Answer in Sight over National Broadband Network Cabling
> >>>
> >>> BY SHELLEY HADFIELD, HERALD SUN, NOVEMBER 07, 2013 9:00PM
> >>>
> >>> THE company rolling out the National Broadband Network says it will
> >>> consider more above-ground cabling in Victoria.
> >>>
> >>> The massive project is currently the subject of a comprehensive
> strategic
> >>> review.
> >>>
> >>> Asked if NBN Co would think about lifting the ratio of above-ground
> >> cabling
> >>> in Victoria, spokesman Andrew Sholl said all rollout options were under
> >> the
> >>> microscope.
> >>>
> >>> "Everything is under consideration at the moment - there are no 'no-go
> >>> areas' in the strategic review," Mr Sholl said.
> >>>
> >>> He said if power utilities or the State Government wanted more overhead
> >>> cabling, they must put their case to NBN Co or the Federal Government.
> >>>
> >>> No case has yet been put by Victoria.
> >>>
> >>> The Electrical Trade Union has weighed into the debate, welcoming a
> push
> >>> for a large part of the NBN to be rolled out above ground.
> >>>
> >>> "We've yet to be presented with any firm proposal to use more overhead
> >>> infrastructure," Mr Sholl said.
> >>>
> >>> "We already have a 30-year deal to lease Telstra's network of
> underground
> >>> pipes, the intention of which is to keep construction costs down and to
> >>> minimise disruption to the community."
> >>>
> >>> Any renegotiation of the deal would hinge upon the outcome of the
> >> strategic
> >>> review, he said.
> >>>
> >>> Recommendations will be contained in the strategic review, which will
> go
> >> to
> >>> the Federal Government on December 2.
> >>>
> >>> The Electrical Trade Union advocates overhead cabling as a better and
> >> more
> >>> cost-effective technique.
> >>>
> >>> ETU NBN construction co-ordinator David Mier said: "Utilising the
> >> existing
> >>> electricity poles and wires - which already run down most streets in
> the
> >>> country - would slash construction costs, allowing a world-class, high-
> >>> speed fibre-to-the-home broadband network to be delivered cheaper and
> >>> quicker than the model Mr Turnbull took to the Federal Election," Mr
> Mier
> >>> said.
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Sephen
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Message sent using MelbPC WebMail Server
> >>>
> >>>
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