[LINK] Machine Learning Was: Re: Robot cars and the fear gap

Karl Auer kauer at biplane.com.au
Thu Jul 28 11:07:51 AEST 2016


On Thu, 2016-07-28 at 10:25 +1000, David Lochrin wrote:
> philosopher John Searle developed an argument against Strong AI known
> as the "Chinese Room" thought experiment to which I referred earlier,
> and it's described in Wikipedia at
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room so I won't repeat it here.
>   However it has stood up well against attempts to knock it off.

Douglas Hofstadter comprehensively demolished it, and I think Daniel
Dennett.

It's much more a rhetorical treatise than a philosophical one. Lots of
word games.

> reproduce this structure quite well in hardware and equip it with
> camera-eyes.  So would this construct be able to _perceive_ colour?
> 
> There's no colour in physics, only EM waves of certain wavelengths or
> photons of certain energies, so where would it come from?  If you can
> answer that you'll be famous.

Define "perceive" :-) Then prove - or even demonstrate - that you (or
anyone) is doing it, and how you (or anyone) doing it is any different
from a machine that does it. I'll wait over here.

Your statement that "the output of a fibre can be considered a symbol"
might need just a leeetle more scaffolding, too. Even if "in the sense
of information theory."

Regards, K.

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