[LINK] Machine Learning Was: Re: Robot cars and the fear gap

Karl Auer kauer at biplane.com.au
Thu Jul 28 13:10:20 AEST 2016


On Thu, 2016-07-28 at 12:49 +1000, David Lochrin wrote:
> The main point I'm making is that nobody understands the nature of
> consciousness, even Douglas Hofstatder.

And he certainly doesn't claim to. Nor does he have much faith in
"strong AI" as far as I can see. He *does* think that brain and minds
are machines, though. By which he means that they are things existing
in and entirely bound by the laws of physics.

> But on the other, physics has no scope for perception to arise.

What?!? Either you are saying there as no such thing as perception, or
you are saying perception exists outside physics. Both of those seem
pretty insupportable.

Perception has already arisen, and you and I are living proof of it.
Well, I am. Can't speak for you. :-)

> Yes, it wasn't intended to be deconstructed too much!  But I'm afraid
> I don't have time to go there just at the moment.

I have an excellent proof of machine intelligence, but this email is
too small to contain it.

Regards, K.

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