[LINK] Search engines to be ordered to not link to academic cheating services

Jevan Pipitone discussion-email-lists at jevan.com.au
Wed May 1 15:38:41 AEST 2019


I worked for a number of tutoring companies in the past as a volunteer, 
to tutor university students by email & phone with me working from home.

All of the students wanted help with assignments, none of them wanted 
just general learning.

Some students would not provide me their university name or even their 
person name, when I asked, since they did not want to be identified.

Because of the penalties associated with this from universities, this 
meant the students were not prepared to write my full name and website 
URL on their assignment in the references section, which would have been 
good as a way of allowing the university to see who helped the students 
with their assignments.

It would be better to allow people (eg tutors) to help students with 
assignments as long as the student puts the tutors contact details in 
the reference section of the assignment.

I also have trouble when I contact a tutoring company and ask to be 
tutored in math and I tell them I'm not studying any courses I just want 
something to do to keep me busy, then they are not happy to provide 
tutoring to me since it's not helping me with assignments or a course, 
so you see, there is a problem with the whole tutoring system, it's not 
focused on learning, it's focused on helping students with assignments. 
However given that fact, it would be best if universities permitted 
assignment help when the tutor is added to the references section of the 
assignment. Usually only some assignments permit group work and the 
assignment specifically states whether group work is permitted or not. 
Maybe all assignments should permit group work and help from tutoring 
companies, as long as it is placed into the references section to give 
credit to those that helped. At the moment the penalties for cheating 
from universities means that students do not reveal if someone helped them.

Jevan.


On Mon. 29-Apr.-19 8:45 am, Tom Worthington wrote:
> There is an Australian draft law "Prohibiting Academic Cheating 
> Services" out for comment,proposing up to two years imprisonment, or 
> more than $100,000 fine. Students who use the service will not be 
> subject to this law, just those providing the service. The 
> universities will be left to discipline their students. That is all 
> good, but the law also provides for search engines and ISPs to be 
> ordered to block cheating sites.
>
> I am a little worried by the way such provisions are creeping into 
> laws. It is very easy to say "Oh, let's just block it", rather than 
> deal with the underlying issues.
>
> More at: 
> https://blog.highereducationwhisperer.com/2019/04/australian-draft-law-prohibiting.html
>
>
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