[LINK] Search engines to be ordered to not link to academic cheating services

Jevan Pipitone discussion-email-lists at jevan.com.au
Wed May 8 18:21:33 AEST 2019


One of the things universities often do is to release a solutions PDF 
after the assignment has been marked and returned. This allows students 
to see where they went wrong and exactly how the marks were allocated.

When I use online MOOCs (online learning) these courses do give you bite 
sized chunks, such as, one week per lesson, but I can work at my own 
pace and do two weeks in two days if I like. Ideally they allow students 
to download the content for offline future reference. Each lesson at the 
end there is a small assignment which involves posting something to a 
group discussion page for that particular week. This allows course 
moderators to confirm that each student is learning as they go on, and 
allows potentially if necessary, feedback each week, the only assessment 
is the final exam at the end of the course, each week's assignment or 
discussion is not marked. The weekly quiz's can be retaken as many times 
as you like until they are 100% mark, and the system records the mark 
and answers submitted for each attempt. The discussion forum allows the 
students to contribute their thoughts and perceptions on everything, 
something that there might not be time for in an in-person tutorial or 
lecture, and it allows for greater contributions by students. The only 
problem with discussion forums is they cannot be downloaded for offline 
future reading.

I learn best by doing, rather than reading. For example, when I answer 
questions that requires me to use content from the lecture notes or 
textbook or about MOOC content.

I have used a MOOC discussion forum where students can upload files, 
such as an audio message, a video message, a word document, anything a 
student wants to say or send to the group to contribute.

Ultimately I think that students that contribute more, will (hopefully) 
get a better mark at the end when the assessment comes around. When I do 
MOOCs as part of my professional development, I learn by contributing to 
others success by posting my answers and thoughts on the course material.

Jevan.


On Fri. 03-May-19 6:32 pm, Karl Auer wrote:
> On Fri, 2019-05-03 at 17:52 +1000, JLWhitaker wrote:
>> If there aren't consequences for NOT doing the en route work, what do
>> you think would happen? Party time! ;-)
> I specifically said, but you did not quote, that I am fine with a
> requirement that students participate in activities, hand in quizzes
> and so on - I'm just not OK with assessable tasks that require
> knowledge or skill before that they can reasonably have been learned.
>
> This is especially true when in order to do the tasks, you depend on
> inputs and support from people who are often completely incompetent -
> such as tutors.
>
> Don't get me started on the fuckuppery that has marked at least two of
> the subjects progeny is now attempting. From quizzes with literally
> incomprehensible questions, to incorrect answers, to getting dates
> wrong and assigning zero marks for work handed in "late", to public
> mark-shaming, to not covering material until after the relevant quizz,
> to not returning marked quizzes, to not providing answers to quizzes,
> or indeed any feedback at all to anything... and to not correcting any
> of the above errors - the list goes on.
>
> An assessment task needs to be perfect. It has to be correct in itself,
> and feedback from it needs to be prompt, accurate, thorough and
> helpful. And it has to be delivered AFTER the point where a student can
> reasonably be expected to have learned what is being tested. Anything
> else is demoralising and of no academic worth.
>
> Regards, K.
>
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