[LINK] Covid 'Cures' cf. Spread-Dampening

[Roger Clarke]

On 1/5/21 9:54 am, jwhit at internode.on.net wrote:
> ... [Successful antivirals] could revolutionise medicine.

Not only medicine.

The sci-fi world has presumably 'modelled' a world in which far more
people survive much longer.

Population-counts explode?
Population-densities explode?
Pressure on raw materials is exacerbated, esp. fresh, clean water?
Nation-level tensions and violence explode, spiked by the need for space
and raw materials?
Society-level tensions and violence explode, spiked by the inability to
achieve social distance / other people 'in your face' all the time?
Individual-level boredom and existential indifference spiral upwards?
Primary causes of death become inter-personal and self-violence?

Later:
The collapse of human immune defensive systems results in a new virus
wiping out much of the human race before the virus-specific cure arrives?

I won't be around long enough to find out whether the impacts of such
cures are worse than the diseases they overcome ...

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> The HIV cure attempt is real. They have been working on this for awhile.
> One method that seems to work is a DNA change (through a bone marrow
> transplant I think?) based on people who don't get HIV despite exposure.
> It worked. They guy who was transplanted to died of something completely
> different. His HIV had disappeared.
> 
> So the science here is a parallel attempt of a different type. If they
> can get this to work on a respiratory virus (SARS type), it's possible
> they could also find a cure for the common cold, which is a holy grail
> of pharmaceuticals. Antivirals are developing. There's no reason they
> can't be developed for this.
> 
> It may be a way off, but every develop goes through the steps. I hope it
> works. It could revolutionise medicine.
> 
> 
>     ----- Original Message -----
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>     "Roger Clarke" <Roger.Clarke at xamax.com.au>
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>     Sent:
>     Sat, 1 May 2021 09:29:52 +1000
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>     Re: [LINK] Covid 'Cures' cf. Spread-Dampening
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> 
>     On 30/4/21 4:29 pm, Stephen Loosley wrote:
>     > Revealed: How a single pill home-cure for Covid could be available
>     this year ...
> 
>     Aside: I worry about any source that uses the word 'cure'.
> 
> 
>     On a related matter, the US and UK appear to be working on the
>     assumption that, once some level of the poulation has been vaccinated,
>     herd immunity is being approached and restrictions can be eased.
> 
>     But the vaccines were designed to be protective of the vaccinated
>     individual against the virus.
> 
>     The extent to which the vaccines reduce the capacity of vaccinated
>     people from spreading the virus appears to be unclear from the science,
>     and hence dependent on empirical evidence from social experiments.
> 
>     Has anyone seen any serious attempts to assess the effectiveness of the
>     vaccines in reducing infections?
> 
>     (As distinct from effectiveness in reducing the impact of the virus on
>     infected individuals - which I gather does seem to be the case with most
>     of the various vaccines).
> 
> 
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