[LINK] Who are you?

Stephen Loosley stephenloosley at zoho.com
Sat Jul 20 12:45:32 AEST 2024


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Dear Kate, Craig and Linkers

Sincere apologies everyone for my Link mechanism assumptions
and the following over-reaction. And to Kate and Craig especially
many many thanks for your kindness and your info-tech expertise.

This morning, who wouldn't just love Link?

Steve Loosley :-) 



 ---- On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 09:39:48 +0930  Craig Sanders  wrote --- 

 > On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 03:38:14PM +1000, Kate Lance wrote:
 >
 > > The list discussed a few weeks ago that it was probably an automatic message
 > > from the mailing-list software because of some unfortunate incident at ANU.
 > > It's certainly not personal. If ANU wants to do this - for a mailing-list
 > > on their infrastructure whose benefits we've enjoyed for free for decades -
 > > then of course they can.
 > 
 > This seems to have started in March this year.
 > 
 > My guess is that it's inserting that scamwatch message to any message with
 > a From: header containing an outlook.com or gmail.com address (maybe other
 > well-known e-mail account providers too).
 > 
 > (and it's probably happening at ANU's mail servers, not the mailing-list
 > server - lots of spam/scam/virus email gets sent directly to recipients, not
 > to lists)
 > 
 > Given the amount of spam from those domains, someone probably thought this was
 > a reasonable compromise compared to simply blocking such mail.
 > 
 > I disagree - IMO, you should either accept or reject a message, never change
 > it. But a) I can understand why someone might think it's reasonable especially
 > when they're receiving mail for many thousands of probably-not-tech-savvy
 > and possibly clueless or gullible staff and students and b) it's not my mail
 > server so I have no say in it.
 > 
 > I know on my own mail server I wish I could just block mail from those domains
 > but there's also a lot of legitimate mail from them, too much to simply block
 > them.  Instead, most mail from outlook & gmail gets caught by my header and
 > body check anti-spam filters (which costs a lot more processing power and time
 > than simply blocking the domains during the SMTP session) and ends up in the
 > quarrantine folder.
 > 
 > 
 > I just grepped my current LINK inbox, and Stephen is the ONLY person sending
 > from an outlook.com address in the last several years (since 2017 or so).
 > And there's only one person sending with a From: header matching @gmail.com.
 > They're the only messages that have had the scamwatch warning added.
 > 
 > Stephen, you can test this by trying to send a message from an alternate
 > address if you have one.  You may have to subscribe from the alternate first,
 > depending on whether LINK only accepts mail from subscribers or not.
 > 
 > 
 > craig
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