[Mihalic] dimdim
Terry H. Gilsenan
thg at weblistix.com
Mon Aug 11 09:57:27 EST 2003
This is correct.
My wife is from Logea and she checked this with her father "Kurusia Peters
fromt eh Kai Logea Band) and he confirmes this to be the case.
Regards,
T
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From: "Institute of Papua New Guinea Studies" <ipngs at global.net.pg>
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Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Mihalic] dimdim
> Dutton (1985:17) notes that dimdim 'white man' is from the Suau language
of
> Milne Bay.
>
> How extensively it may be used in TP is, of course, another question.
>
> Dutton, Tom E.
> 1985 Police Motu: Iena Sivarai (Its Story). Linguistics Series,
> 2. Port Moresby: University of Papua New Guinea Press.
>
> Don
>
> Don Niles
> Head & Senior Ethnomusicologist
> Music Department
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> >I am not familiar with the word 'demdem' for snail so, cannot say much.
In
> >fact have been learning a lot from the contributions so far. But as
> >mentioned by both John and Martha, dimdim is the Milne Bay word for white
> >skinned people from far off lands like Europe and Asia. Its origin and
> >etymology is still a mystery to most of us. I've asked around a bit (not
> >much) but no one seem to know. At least the Tubetube people have some
idea.
> >On the other hand, Trobrianders have two other words which I believe
predate
> >the word dimdim: Togumanuma and Toukoukwa. But again, dimdim is the
> >preferred term these days.
> >
> >em tasol na sori tru.
> >
> >linus
> >
> >
> >JB: have not forgotten the request - just a bit disorganised of late.
> >
> >Martha Macintyre wrote:
> >
> >> Demdem is the term for snail that I have heard. Not dimdim. Dimdim, the
> >> Milne Bay term for white people comes from an archaic term in some
local
> >> languages for 'southern horizon'. At least that is what I was told on
> >> Tubetube in 1979 by several old men. It was associated particularly
with
> >> the labour trade, pearlers etc who came from Australia.
> >> martha
> >>
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