[Mihalic] Piccaninny dawn

Institute of Papua New Guinea Studies ipngs at global.net.pg
Sat Nov 18 10:38:48 EST 2006


I think "bik moning" or "bik moning tru" are very common.

Don 

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From: mihalic-bounces at anu.edu.au [mailto:mihalic-bounces at anu.edu.au] On
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Subject: RE: [Mihalic] Piccaninny dawn

In Bougainville, I have heard the opposite size descriptor, 'bik', to
describe what I believe is the same time of day---namely, early in the
morning. For example,

Bai yu kam long bik moning tru.
Come in the early morning.

Is this a common expression?

-Stuart

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 r.clark at auckland.ac.nz wrote:

> "Piccaninny daylight", also "piccaninny dawn, piccaninny sun" as 
> expressions for the earliest morning, are well attested in Australian 
> English, going back to the 1840s at least. I assume this is from the 
> earlier sense of "piccaninny" = "small", and originated in some pidgin 
> context. However, the only place I can find it in use today is in 
> Torres Straits Creole, in the relexified form "smol delait" = "dawn, 
> early morning".
>
> Ross Clark
>
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> 	Subject: [Mihalic] Piccaninny dawn
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>
> 	In The Sky People (1984) by John Emery, there are numerous
references 
> to "piccaninny dawn" which I assume means something like the first 
> light of dawn, before the sun actually appears.
>
> 	Is this a version of a normal TP expression? Has anyone heard 
> "pikinini tulait" or something like that? Or might it be some sort of 
> Tok Masta?
>
>
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