[PapuanLanguages] Edolo Imperatives

[Steve Miller]

Hello Dr. Aikhenvald/Sacha,

Yes, "Steve" is fine.

I've not worked on Edolo imperatives myself. The suffixes I referred to 
are among roughly 20 tense/aspect/modal markers in the language, a 
number of which are not well understood. I am hoping to go to Edolo in 
October and see if I can understand them better. I've actually been 
considering Edolo verb structure as a possible topic if I pursue a PhD.

Steve


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> From: "Aikhenvald, Alexandra" <alexandra.aikhenvald at jcu.edu.au>
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> Dear Steve (if I may)
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> How very interesting! Have you written anything on imperatives in Edolo?
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> I have been working on imperatives cross-linguistically for many years (and would be very happy to share my 2010 book and 2017 volume with you), and am now working on the revision of my 2010 book.
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> I enclose a recent paper on Manambu imperatives (a Ndu language on which I have done immersion fieldwork). There is no polite imperative there, but it is a most interesting system.
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> Best wishes
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> Sacha
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> Subject: Re: [PapuanLanguages] verbs involving directives, , [non]compliance in Papuan languages
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> Hi Joseph,
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> I'm not aware of any such verb in Edolo, but the language does have a sufiix -malo that is a polite imperative. It also has another suffix -mo that also is an imperative of some sort that has not been determined exactly yet.
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> I can think of one story in which 'say' was used. It could well have a sense of 'command.'
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> Steve
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> From: Joseph Brooks<brooks.josephd at gmail.com> To:papuanlanguages at anu.edu.au
> Subject: [PapuanLanguages] verbs involving directives,	[non]compliance
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> Hi all,
> I'm looking for examples from Papuan languages of verbs that mean more or less 'order/command/tell someone to do'. And, similarly, for examples of verbs/expressions that mean (roughly) 'comply, obey (etc)' and also 'not to comply, disobey'. Either lexical verbs or larger phrases or expressions.
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> Part of why I'm interested is the language I work with, Chini, has no general verb or expression of the first sort ('order/command'), and I'm wondering how widespread this might be in Melanesia. Then, as a (very) rough equivalent of 'comply' Chini has a phrase meaning 'go along the path of (the other person's/people's) talk'. There's a more semantically straightforward lexical verb meaning 'not to comply', and then an expression similar to Tok Pisin 'sakim tok' - except in Chini it's 'spear talk', ie in outwardly refusing someone else's request.
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> Anywa,s, I'm curious to know what others here know from the languages they've worked with.
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> Cheers,
> Joseph
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