[PapuanLanguages] PapuanLanguages Digest, Vol 145, Issue 4
M. A. Obaydullah
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> 1. words/expressions for "6 basic emotions" in Papuan languages
> (Joseph Brooks)
> 2. Re: words/expressions for "6 basic emotions" in Papuan
> languages (Edgar Suter)
> 3. Re: words/expressions for "6 basic emotions" in Papuan
> languages (William Foley)
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> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 14:05:02 -0300
> From: Joseph Brooks <brooks.josephd at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [PapuanLanguages] words/expressions for "6 basic emotions" in
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> Hi everyone,
> My uncle is doing a project on apparent universals in 6 human emotions and
> their expression. Not putting stock in that idea personally, but I told him
> I would ask to see about lexical items or (clear) expressions for the 6
> emotions in other Papuan languages. Which of these 6 does the language(s)
> you have worked on have clear means to express? They are: joy, sorrow,
> anger, fear, surprise, disgust.
>
> In Chini I find there are clear or at least reasonably marginal ways to say
> the first 5, joy being perhaps a hard one (at best the equivalent of
> "hamamas nogut tru" in pidgin). I know of no lexical form or expression for
> 'disgust' beyond the equivalent for "Mi les".
>
> Cheers
> Joseph
>
> --
> *"Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since, in the
> wisdom of God, the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God
> was pleased by the foolishness of the message we proclaim to save those who
> believe." (1 Corinthians 1)*
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> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 20:29:18 +0200
> From: Edgar Suter <esut at sunrise.ch>
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> Subject: Re: [PapuanLanguages] words/expressions for "6 basic
> emotions" in Papuan languages
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> Hi Joseph,
>
> based on my experience with Papuan dictionaries I would say that ?anger?
> and ?fear? are the two emotions of this set that are most often
> lexicalized, though for ?fear? there is often more than one expression
> (with nuances of meaning). There is rather seldom a word (noun or verb) for
> ?joy? and ?sorrow?, rather these concepts are expressed phrasally (e.g.
> good liver and bad liver). Surprise and amazement are probably more often
> lexicalized in a word than disgust (for which there may be metaphors like
> slug or snail). An emotion that is very often lexicalized missing from this
> list is shame.
>
> Best,
>
> Edgar
>
> Von meinem iPad gesendet
>
> > Am 21.06.2022 um 19:05 schrieb Joseph Brooks <brooks.josephd at gmail.com>:
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> > My uncle is doing a project on apparent universals in 6 human emotions
> and
> > their expression. Not putting stock in that idea personally, but I told
> him
> > I would ask to see about lexical items or (clear) expressions for the 6
> > emotions in other Papuan languages. Which of these 6 does the language(s)
> > you have worked on have clear means to express? They are: joy, sorrow,
> > anger, fear, surprise, disgust.
> >
> > In Chini I find there are clear or at least reasonably marginal ways to
> say
> > the first 5, joy being perhaps a hard one (at best the equivalent of
> > "hamamas nogut tru" in pidgin). I know of no lexical form or expression
> for
> > 'disgust' beyond the equivalent for "Mi les".
> >
> > Cheers
> > Joseph
> >
> > --
> > *"Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since, in the
> > wisdom of God, the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God
> > was pleased by the foolishness of the message we proclaim to save those
> who
> > believe." (1 Corinthians 1)*
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2022 19:02:33 +0000
> From: William Foley <william.foley at sydney.edu.au>
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> Subject: Re: [PapuanLanguages] words/expressions for "6 basic
> emotions" in Papuan languages
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> Watam has monomorphemic lexemes as verbs ?feel X emotion? for all of these
> except disgust. I know no way to express this excerpt something along the
> lines of ?mi no laik tru? yak kairir kairir
> Bill
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> Edgar Suter <esut at sunrise.ch>
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> Subject: Re: [PapuanLanguages] words/expressions for "6 basic emotions" in
> Papuan languages
>
> Hi Joseph,
>
> based on my experience with Papuan dictionaries I would say that ?anger?
> and ?fear? are the two emotions of this set that are most often
> lexicalized, though for ?fear? there is often more than one expression
> (with nuances of meaning). There is rather seldom a word (noun or verb) for
> ?joy? and ?sorrow?, rather these concepts are expressed phrasally (e.g.
> good liver and bad liver). Surprise and amazement are probably more often
> lexicalized in a word than disgust (for which there may be metaphors like
> slug or snail). An emotion that is very often lexicalized missing from this
> list is shame.
>
> Best,
>
> Edgar
>
> Von meinem iPad gesendet
>
> > Am 21.06.2022 um 19:05 schrieb Joseph Brooks <brooks.josephd at gmail.com>:
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> > My uncle is doing a project on apparent universals in 6 human emotions
> and
> > their expression. Not putting stock in that idea personally, but I told
> him
> > I would ask to see about lexical items or (clear) expressions for the 6
> > emotions in other Papuan languages. Which of these 6 does the language(s)
> > you have worked on have clear means to express? They are: joy, sorrow,
> > anger, fear, surprise, disgust.
> >
> > In Chini I find there are clear or at least reasonably marginal ways to
> say
> > the first 5, joy being perhaps a hard one (at best the equivalent of
> > "hamamas nogut tru" in pidgin). I know of no lexical form or expression
> for
> > 'disgust' beyond the equivalent for "Mi les".
> >
> > Cheers
> > Joseph
> >
> > --
> > *"Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since, in the
> > wisdom of God, the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God
> > was pleased by the foolishness of the message we proclaim to save those
> who
> > believe." (1 Corinthians 1)*
> > _______________________________________________
> > PapuanLanguages mailing list
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